We’ve reached the end of the season, and we saved the first song written for this album for last. Today, John and Joseph have one more conversation about what it means to be a fan, an artist, and both at once — and talk about “Hand of Death,” which never actually made it onto the Mountain Goats’ In League with Dragons. Featuring an exclusive demo of the song.

The Mountain Goats’ In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com.

From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.