Cider Chat

219: Sorbs Not Sulfites


Listen Later

Sorbus Domestica enthusiast Arnould Narazian of Paris France, shares his knowledge and passion for this King of all Pommes. This "Service Tree's wood was used for wooden screws used in wine presses and the fruit to help cure ailing cider and wine.

This chat was recorded at Cidrexpo in February 2020 in Caen France.

The main chat begins at 9:20 minutes

Arnould Nazarian

What are some of the cultural/traditional name for Sorbus Domestica?

  • North of France it is called "Cormé"
  • South of France it is referred to as "Sorb"
  • Service Tree
  • Spierling - German

What inspired Arnould's affection for Sorbus Domestica

A dream and a visit to a train station in the north of Paris called Gare d'Achères–Grand-Cormier based to the North west of Paris in the town of Achères

What are the special attributes of Sorbus Domestica?

  • Sorb was used for making mechanical devices such as cog wheels for mills. This was very important for milling up corn and grains for food. These mechanisms came about in the Middle Ages of the 11-12th century
  • The wood was also used for the main screw used to press both wine and olives for olive oil. And, early printing presses used Sorb wood too!

Germinating Sorbus Domestica seeds

Germinating Sorbus Domestica

For the seeds to geminate they must be eaten by a bird or rabbit first.

But Arnould has since found some other ways to germinate this King of Pommes.

  • Source seeds in October/November - they must be immediately be placed into moist sand.
  • Then placed in a refrigerator at 2degree Celsius or 35 degrees Fahrenheit.
  • Then the seeds are put outdoors in March
  • The odds of the seed germinating is 95%.

Sorbs like

  • Sandy soil
  • Sun light
  • Not a lot of water
  • And the roots can be 6-8 meters down which translate to 26 feet!

Sorb Fruit

What does the Sorb fruit look like?

The fruit of a Sorbus Domestica look like miniature apples and pears and have a range of colors from red, green, yellow and orange. The shape can be round or pear like.

Are there different varieties of Sorbus Domestica?

Arnould says yes, but those varieties are now lost.

Sorbs though large have a special attribute that enables farmers to plant these trees in crop fields

Arnould calls the leaves "Peanut Leaves" which means they are small and thus cast a very light shadow for the surrounding area

The Day of the Cormé - a celebration of Sorb held in November

Buy trees, marmalade, wood products, held in Normandy.

Contact Arnould

  • via Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arnouldnz/?hl=en

Mentions in this Chat

  • TeePublic Cider Chat Swag Store - new designs

Sorbus Domestica -t shirt at Cider Chat Teepublic Store

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

  • Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts.
  • Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast
  • Twitter @ciderchat
  • Instagram: @ciderchatciderville
  • Cider Chat FaceBook Page
  • Cider Chat YouTube
  • Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Cider ChatBy Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

85 ratings


More shows like Cider Chat

View all
Radiolab by WNYC Studios

Radiolab

43,818 Listeners

Freakonomics Radio by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Freakonomics Radio

32,236 Listeners

Fresh Air by NPR

Fresh Air

38,513 Listeners

The Tim Ferriss Show by Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

The Tim Ferriss Show

16,184 Listeners

The NPR Politics Podcast by NPR

The NPR Politics Podcast

26,032 Listeners

On the Media by WNYC Studios

On the Media

9,227 Listeners

In Our Time by BBC Radio 4

In Our Time

5,565 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,494 Listeners

Up First from NPR by NPR

Up First from NPR

56,997 Listeners

Radio Atlantic by The Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

2,388 Listeners

Today, Explained by Vox

Today, Explained

10,339 Listeners

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway by Vox Media Podcast Network

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

5,657 Listeners

Beyond Organic Wine by Beyond Organic Wine

Beyond Organic Wine

54 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,556 Listeners

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart by Comedy Central

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

10,983 Listeners