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222 : Stop Chasing Success: The Inner Work That Actually Fulfills with Sam Kabert


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In this episode: outsourcing worth to work, soul life balance, the be/do/have model, nervous system regulation, and daily Sona practice with Sam Kabert

Episode Summary

Sam Kabert built a seven-figure business working under four hours a day, earned a spot on Silicon Valley's 40 Under 40—and still fell into a numbing depression. In this episode, Sam unpacks why external success left him empty and shares the frameworks he discovered on his journey inward: the soul life mindset, the be/do/have model, and why conventional work-life balance misses the mark.

Guest Bio

Sam Kabert is a serial entrepreneur turned keynote speaker, breathwork teacher, and author of the #1 bestselling book SOUL/Life Balance. Named to Silicon Valley's 40 Under 40 at 31, he now helps high-performing leaders reclaim clarity and fulfillment through mindfulness, NLP, and nervous system regulation.

Resources & Books Mentioned

  • SOUL/Life Balance by Sam Kabert
  • Start Something That Matters by Blake Mycoskie
  • Sam Kabert's TEDx Talk
  • Front Row Dads

Guest Contact Information

  • Website: samkabert.com
  • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kabert
  • Breath Club : samkabert.com/club
  • Instagram: @samkabert

Key Takeaways

  • Hitting seven figures while working under four hours a day still led Sam to depression—proof that outsourcing your worth to your work is a trap no level of external success can fix.
  • The be/do/have model flips the script: get crystal clear on who you are first (Sam uses Matthew McConaughey's "future hero" concept as a guide), then act from that identity rather than chasing a fleeting dopamine hit.
  • Soul life balance reframes work-life balance by adding the yin/inner world—mental a

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