The RegenNarration Podcast

229. Moving from Figure to Ground: With Douglas Rushkoff, ‘live in New York’


Listen Later

When we were in New York recently, I dropped by to visit Douglas Rushkoff at his Queens College office. For those who don’t recall Douglas from his previous times on this podcast, he’s a media professor, documentary-maker, host of the Team Human podcast, and best-selling author of 20 books - including the updated edition of Program or Be Programmed, out now, with particular additions around AI. There’s a launch party for that tonight if you happen to be in or near NY. Douglas is also one of the pioneering forces behind the internet. So when he tells me in this conversation that he’s starting to believe that the whole narrative of the internet is bull shit, it feels big.

We actually sat down over lunch initially, but hadn’t talked long before Douglas suggested we press record on it – that others might be interested in this too. So this one’s a little different. Going out on both our podcasts. Less interview, more conversation. On our respective lives and work, their latest surprising turns, magic, perspective and possibility, and yes, this journey of ours across the US this year. Including the light all that might shine on the US elections. It wound up feeling like a fun and profound tonic for the week ahead, and this high stakes time generally.

For those who’ve listened to this on Team Human already, you’ll find a tad lighter edit here, with a little more of the personal stuff left in, in case that’s of interest to you.

This episode has chapter markers and a transcript (available on most apps now too). The transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully provides greater access for those who need or like to read.

Recorded 9 October 2024 (inc. subway snippets; intro recorded in Baltimore).

Title slide: Douglas & AJ after recording (pic: Josh Chapdelaine).

See more photos on the website, and for more from behind the scenes, become a subscribing member via the links below.

Music:
Green Shoots, by The Nomadics.
Regeneration, by Amelia Barden, from Regenerating Australia.
The RegenNarration playlist, music chosen by guests (thanks to Josie Symons).

Send us a text

Pre-roll music: Heartland Rebel, by Steven Beddall (sourced from Artlist).

Support the show

The RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. We'd love you to join us.

Become a paid subscriber to connect with your host, other listeners and exclusive benefits, on Patreon or the new Substack.

Or donate directly via the website (avoiding fees) or PayPal.

While you can also visit The RegenNarration shop. Come to an event. And please do share, rate and review the podcast.

Thanks for your support!

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The RegenNarration PodcastBy Anthony James

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

8 ratings


More shows like The RegenNarration Podcast

View all
Philosopher's Zone by ABC listen

Philosopher's Zone

207 Listeners

Ideas by CBC

Ideas

396 Listeners

Big Ideas by ABC listen

Big Ideas

106 Listeners

Making Sense with Sam Harris by Sam Harris

Making Sense with Sam Harris

26,469 Listeners

For The Wild by For The Wild

For The Wild

1,155 Listeners

Team Human by Douglas Rushkoff

Team Human

357 Listeners

All The Dirt  Gardening, Sustainability and Food by Steve Wood and  Deryn Thorpe

All The Dirt Gardening, Sustainability and Food

9 Listeners

Working Cows - Regenerative Ranching to Maximize Profitability and Soil Health by Clay Conry

Working Cows - Regenerative Ranching to Maximize Profitability and Soil Health

420 Listeners

Emergence Magazine Podcast by Emergence Magazine

Emergence Magazine Podcast

477 Listeners

Regenerative Agriculture Podcast by John Kempf

Regenerative Agriculture Podcast

514 Listeners

Accidental Gods by Accidental Gods

Accidental Gods

123 Listeners

The Regenerative Journey with Charlie Arnott by Charlie Arnott

The Regenerative Journey with Charlie Arnott

50 Listeners

Planet: Critical by Rachel Donald

Planet: Critical

86 Listeners

Wild with Sarah Wilson by Sarah Wilson

Wild with Sarah Wilson

74 Listeners

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens by Nate Hagens

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

395 Listeners