It's the second part of our chat with Mattias Isaksson from Great Ocean Road Brewing as we continue the story of his journey as a brewer.

You can get the beers for this episode delivered from our online store here: https://the-coolroom-podcast.myshopify.com/products/great-ocean-road-6-pack

In this episode we find out what Mattias has seen in coolrooms, what toys he'd buy if he won tattslotto and we "nerd out about Saab" some more.

We have some wonderfully detailed discussions about NZ Hops and less important ones about the differences between D and E type keg couplers...