January 28, 2026

296 | we don't need each other anymore

1 hour 1 minute

This episode got raw.

In Episode 2 of our series, we sit down as husband and wife and say the words that made us most vulnerable:

we don’t need each other.

What started as an honest conversation turned emotional—tears, tension, disagreements, and a level of vulnerability we’ve never shared publicly. We talk about breaking free from co-dependency, redefining partnership, and what it actually means to choose each other instead of needing each other to survive.

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(00:00) we don’t need each other

(03:00) accolades, do they matter?

(10:43) what’s factual vs what’s emotional

(15:00) “it doesn’t mean anything if you’re by yourself”

(18:47) can you have an integrated, codependent marriage?

(26:05) we can, but we’re better as a team

(31:11) “i could, but is that what i want?”

(38:22) choosing each other

(43:56) we don’t know, but we’re trying

(52:16) is the grass greener? can i do this alone?

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By Shawn Johnson + Andrew East

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