Cheryl Abram is a mother of 4 from southern Louisiana. She’s a graduate of the Catholic University of America in Washington D.C. and holds a Master's degrees in Social Work in Quality Systems Management. Cheryl currently lives in Northern Virginia and works as a learning and development specialist in a federal agency in Washington DC. After an undeniable experience that reminded her of our inherent value…without the need of a “savior”, Cheryl is now passionate about spreading the good news that belief is not necessary. We are already innocent, eternal, and free.

Book: Firing God

Transcript of this interview

Interview recorded 7/25/2015

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to "Buddha at the Gas Pump" and 300th Guest Celebration

00:04:46 - Fear of God and Deserving Salvation

00:09:06 - The Necessity of the Journey

00:13:11 - Searching for Happiness and Meaning

00:17:25 - A Moment of Honesty with God

00:21:45 - The Loss of the Original Essence of Religion

00:25:55 - Discovering My Heritage

00:30:29 - Questioning the Bible and Finding Different Perspectives

00:34:39 - The Weird Experience and the Search for Answers

00:38:38 - Piercing the Fear Membrane

00:42:48 - Introducing Non-believers to the Community

00:47:33 - The Shift from Belief to Permanence

00:51:48 - The Importance of Honesty and Identity

00:55:50 - Feeling Safe and Helping Others

00:59:43 - Beliefs and Authenticity

01:03:50 - The Nature of Beliefs

01:08:06 - The Possibility of Experiencing What Jesus Taught

01:12:05 - The Wonder of Existence

01:17:02 - The intelligence that governs the universe

01:21:49 - Inclusive Communication

01:25:46 - The Concept of Sin and Responsibility

01:29:57 - Acting from a level of consciousness

01:33:51 - The Misconception of Disabilities in the Bible

01:37:57 - The Burden of Guilt and Taking Responsibility

01:41:56 - The Pursuit of Perfection and Responsibility

01:45:45 - Seeing Kindness

01:50:07 - Letting Go of Punishment and Ego-Aggrandizement

01:53:39 - The Relatability of Personal Experiences 

01:57:35 - Safety and Authenticity in Interviews

02:01:40 - The Power of Forgiveness

02:05:12.000 - Concluding Remarks