Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

318 | What If Your Spouse Never Changes?


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Most arguments don't start with the words we say- they start with the meaning we attach to what happened.

In this episode, we dive into the stories we create in our minds, the assumptions we make about each other's intentions, and how those stories can shape the way we see reality. Sometimes our minds are protecting us from something that isn't true… and sometimes they're pointing out something that genuinely needs to change.
We have an honest conversation about marriage, conflict, expectations, and the moments when we have to ask ourselves:
"Am I seeing the situation clearly, or am I reacting to the story I've created?"
We talk about why two people can experience the same moment completely differently, how to separate assumptions from truth, and what it looks like to take responsibility while still holding each other accountable.
Because growth isn't just about changing ourselves or changing our partner—it's about learning when to challenge the story in our head, and when to listen to what it's trying to tell us. Let us know what you think about this one!
We love you guys!
Shawn & Andrew
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(00:00) fourth of july 

(01:18) how we interpret reality 

(04:25) the moment that sparked this passion 

(07:04) forgetting because you don't care vs. forgetting because you're overwhelmed 

(15:27) reframing the "good" and "bad" seasons of marriage 

(20:00) "your spouse is late..." 

(32:25) the math problem in marriage 

(34:17) romanticizing the past 

(35:26) the power of "and" 

(36:35) how our marriage has grown 

(37:30) choosing generous reactions

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