It's just the nature of our show that we often talk to folks in the mastery part of their professional S-Curve. It's easy to talk to a CEO about leadership. It's also another fact that our guests tend to be older – at least, out of college.

But it is rare that we come across an entrepreneur in that very first launch point of their career. A person that put college on hold to pursue an idea, a person willing to put their dreams on hold for an hour to talk to us.

Austin Hillam is the co-founder of ZipString, a handheld toy that keeps a string in constant motion. It's easier to just watch than explain, here.

And we've got Austin today for a rare look at the phase of professional life that a lot of our guests can only reflect on – starting that first business.