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Ben Smith, author of Traffic: Genius, Rivalry, and Delusion in the Billion-Dollar Race to Go Viral and Editor in Chief of Semafor, joins The Realignment. Ben, Saagar, and Marshall discuss the end of the social media-fueled digital media, the end of BuzzFeed News and the collapse of Vice, and why the next era of online journalism won't be anything like the 2010s.