On this episode of "Death in The Garden," we share our interview with former CEO of Survival International, Stephen Corry. We have been interested in Survival International for a while, as many of you know, but we became particularly interested in speaking with Stephen when he started posting on Twitter about how problematic so much of the vegan agenda was, particularly conflating all livestock husbandry with factory farming. When he wrote this fantastic article, we were so excited to see that someone else was seeing the through-lines between the vegan narrative, conservation, and also the green energy climate change narratives. We discuss at length the manufacturing of these narratives, how they service elites, and how people everywhere will suffer if we continue to let the conversation about climate change be co-opted and controlled by the most powerful people in the world. We discuss Greta Thunberg, the common rhetoric around hopelessness, the racist and genocidal application of conservation, how colonialism never ended, and the problem of believing there is one right way to live. 

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Editing: Jake Marquez

Music: "Buildings & Mountains" by The Republic Tigers

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