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David Kinnaman (CEO, Barna Group) joins Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller to explore current trends in spiritual openness, the factors that contribute to people distancing themselves from the Church and how understanding people's spiritual backstories can be a gateway for meaningful faith conversations.

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