Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast

#391: Pastoring Border Patrol Agents And Immigrants with Evan Wickham


Listen Later

I’m not a Lead Pastor, but I can’t imagine anything more difficult than pastoring in today’s political climate. We feel that these days are unique, but in reality they are not. History has much to teach us.

Occasionally I like to bring Lead Pastors onto the podcast to talk about how they’re navigating cultural issues. My guest today is Evan Wickham. Evan is the older brother of Phil Wickham, also a worship leader and songwriter, and the pastor of Park Hill Church in San Diego, California. Here’s what’s interesting: In his very church, he has a Christian Border Patrol Agent and Immigrant families, both trying to make sense of the times in which we live. Evan’s perspective on how to pastor faithfully is enlightening. What does faithful pastoring look like? How do partisan politics compromise the gospel? Should our Sunday services address the latest issues in the news or should we just stick to the gospel? Is it possible to pastor from the political center?

We can’t escape politics, no matter how much we would like to try. Politics effect how we live together. The Bible is a political book.

Conversations like this rarely make anyone happy but faithful leaders need to step into the tension. Don’t miss the end of the conversation where we talk about worship, songwriting, and the presence of God in our churches. Evan’s challenge were beautiful and surprising.

Topics Covered:
  • Deconstruction and staying in the Church
  • Why Baby Boomer pastors are not known for letting go
  • 3 signs that you are a healthy pastor
  • The Matt Walsh vs Evan Wickham social media beef
  • How to think about what President Trump is saying and doing
  • How to Pastor both right and left leaning people in your congregation
  • What the presence of God actually means
  • Whether we should pursue revival or not
  • Resources Mentioned:
    • Show Sponsor: Planning Center
    • Christ the King of Love by Evan Wickham
    • Evan Wickham Substack
    • Show Sponsor: Planning Center

      This episode is brought to you by Planning Center, helping you sync all your ministry details across your whole church.

      Planning Center has become so essential to how I manage a team, that it’s almost impossible to consider local church ministry without it anymore.

      Today, I want to leave you with a PCO pro-tip.

      Does this sound like a familiar situation? It’s the end of the week. You’re about to leave the office when you suddenly think: Did all of our volunteers confirm for Sunday? You scroll through the schedule and sure enough—there’s a gap.

      Instead of allowing yourself to spiral into a  panic, try this:

      In Services, Planning Center has gap alerts. Turn them on, and you’ll get a heads-up days before service if positions are still unfilled or unconfirmed. No more end of the week scrambling.

      Speaking of less scrambling, did you know you can access everything you need for rehearsals right from the Service media player on your phone? Lyrics, chord charts, arrangement notes—it’s all right there, so you’re not hunting for files in the middle of hitting those power chords.

      To see what else you can do to make your Sundays easier, go to planningcenter.com/blog.

      The post #391: Pastoring Border Patrol Agents And Immigrants with Evan Wickham appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

      ...more
      View all episodesView all episodes
      Download on the App Store

      Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastBy David Santistevan: Worship Leader, Blogger, Teacher

      • 4.9
      • 4.9
      • 4.9
      • 4.9
      • 4.9

      4.9

      190 ratings


      More shows like Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast

      View all
      The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast by Art of Leadership Network

      The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

      2,287 Listeners

      BibleProject by BibleProject Podcast

      BibleProject

      19,521 Listeners

      Word of Life Church Podcast by Pastor Brian Zahnd

      Word of Life Church Podcast

      317 Listeners

      The Russell Moore Show by Christianity Today, Russell Moore

      The Russell Moore Show

      1,137 Listeners

      Voxology by Voxology

      Voxology

      1,101 Listeners

      The Holy Post by Phil Vischer

      The Holy Post

      4,460 Listeners

      Theology in the Raw by Theology in the Raw

      Theology in the Raw

      1,496 Listeners

      Church of the City New York by Jon Tyson

      Church of the City New York

      849 Listeners

      Ask NT Wright Anything by Premier Unbelievable

      Ask NT Wright Anything

      2,065 Listeners

      Not Just Sunday: Christian Life, Following Jesus, & Daily Discipleship by Patrick Miller, Keith Simon

      Not Just Sunday: Christian Life, Following Jesus, & Daily Discipleship

      910 Listeners

      The Pour Over: Politically Neutral, Christ-First News by The Pour Over

      The Pour Over: Politically Neutral, Christ-First News

      4,390 Listeners

      Worship is my Weapon Podcast with Rita Springer by Rita Springer

      Worship is my Weapon Podcast with Rita Springer

      22 Listeners

      The Bulletin by Christianity Today

      The Bulletin

      581 Listeners

      Curiously Kaitlyn by Kaitlyn Schiess

      Curiously Kaitlyn

      855 Listeners

      The Esau McCaulley Podcast by Esau McCaulley

      The Esau McCaulley Podcast

      870 Listeners