Aviation News Talk – Pilot Stories, Safety Tips & General Aviation News

402 Flying the Cirrus SF50 Vision Jet Before the Type Rating: 5 Days with Ken Ansin


Listen Later

Vision Jet owner Ken joins Max Trescott to recount an unforgettable five-day training adventure that bridged the gap between piston flying and turbine jet proficiency. As a longtime Cirrus SR22 pilot from the Boston area, Ken had spent nearly a decade flying for both business and family trips, rarely exceeding 300 nautical miles from home. When he decided to upgrade to a 2019 G2 Vision Jet, he wanted more than a checkout—he wanted a head start on mastering the airplane before tackling the Cirrus type rating course in Knoxville.

In this episode, Ken explains how his "pre-SOE" plan came together. After reaching out to Max, the two pilots scheduled nearly a week of flying to experience diverse weather, airports, and procedures. The goal: to learn the G3000 avionics, improve cockpit workflow, and build real-world familiarity before entering formal training.

Their first day took them from Bedford, Massachusetts, to Burlington, Vermont, and then to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where Max demonstrated how to safely cancel IFR and load a visual approach when haze and sun glare limited visibility. That night, while returning to Bedford, they learned the importance of aiming for runway aiming points—not the numbers—especially during night landings in jets.

Day two brought a new challenge: deciding whether to fly west toward the Rockies or south toward better weather. A massive cold front made the decision easy, and the pair headed south instead. After a scenic leg along Long Island to Atlantic City, Ken received what Max called "the longest IFR clearance ever." Rather than manually entering the clearance into the G3000, Max showed how to import the flight plan directly from ForeFlight—a huge time-saver for managing long routes.

That evening's destination was Greene County, Georgia (3J7), near Ken's in-laws' home at Lake Oconee. The stop held sentimental value: it was the same airport where Ken had first landed years earlier with his brand-new SR22. The next morning brought low fog and another teachable moment. When poor cell coverage prevented them from obtaining an IFR release, Max used the Vision Jet's SAT phone to call clearance delivery—a practical use for a feature many pilots overlook.

Later that day, while practicing a VX climb—a maximum-performance takeoff used for steep departure gradients—Ken forgot to raise the landing gear, a common mistake during the high-workload maneuver. The oversight led to a discussion about better cues, timing, and division of tasks between pilots to avoid forgetting critical steps. They also discovered that one set of keys had been left in the cabin door—a harmless but memorable moment that required returning to the airport to retrieve them.

From Georgia, they flew to Asheville, North Carolina, for real-world mountain experience, and then to John C. Tune Airport in Nashville. When ATC issued a last-minute vector, Max demonstrated how to safely "do nothing"—allowing the autopilot to intercept as planned instead of overcomplicating things.

On day four, they returned to Boston. At night, controllers twice ignored their request for an ILS approach into Bedford, forcing a visual approach at higher altitude and steeper descent rates. Max explained why instrument approaches at night are always safer, and how overworked controllers sometimes inadvertently increase pilot workload.

The final day offered a lighter tone: a short hop to Nantucket, one of Ken's favorite destinations. There, Max illustrated how adjusting throttle settings and altitude can drastically change fuel burn—saving nearly 18 gallons on a short leg by reducing power.

Ken wrapped up by reflecting on what he gained from the experience: confidence, familiarity with the Vision Jet's systems, and a deeper appreciation for proactive learning. "I encourage other pilots to build their own syllabus," he said, "because flying with an instructor like Max before formal training was both incredibly valuable and a lot of fun."

Whether you fly a Cirrus SR22 or aspire to own a Vision Jet, this episode is packed with insights about transition training, pre-type preparation, and real-world decision-making that can make any pilot safer and more capable.

If you're getting value from this show, please support the show via PayPal, Venmo, Zelle or Patreon.

Support the Show by buying a Lightspeed ANR Headsets Max has been using only Lightspeed headsets for nearly 25 years! I love their tradeup program that let's you trade in an older Lightspeed headset for a newer model. Start with one of the links below, and Lightspeed will pay a referral fee to support Aviation News Talk. Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset $1299 NEW – Lightspeed Zulu 4 Headset $1099 Lightspeed Zulu 3 Headset $949Lightspeed Sierra Headset $749 My Review on the Lightspeed Delta Zulu

Send us your feedback or comments via email

If you have a question you'd like answered on the show, let listeners hear you ask the question, by recording your listener question using your phone.

News Stories

  • Hurricane Melissa relief by GA groups has begun
  • Shutdown Driving Controllers Away From the Profession
  • Garmin unveils two new pilot watches
  • Pocket carbon monoxide detector for pilots introduced
  • Missionary Pilot Kidnapped in Niger's Capital
  • Fuel exhaustion leads to crash
  • Dehavilland Beaver Crashes in Alaska after spotting Wolves
  • After an emergency landing in Minnesota, plane seized by Indians

Mentioned on the Show Buy Max Trescott's G3000 Book Call 800-247-6553 Lightspeed Delta Zulu Headset Giveaway NTSB News Talk Podcast UAV News Talk Podcast Rotary Wing Show Podcast Buy ForeFlight Sentry ADS-B Receiver Montana small aircraft crash rate among highest in the nation

Free Index to the first 282 episodes of Aviation New Talk

So You Want To Learn to Fly or Buy a Cirrus seminars Online Version of the Seminar Coming Soon – Register for Notification

Check out our recommended ADS-B receivers, and order one for yourself. Yes, we'll make a couple of dollars if you do.

Get the Free Aviation News Talk app for iOS or Android.

Check out Max's Online Courses: G1000 VFR, G1000 IFR, and Flying WAAS & GPS Approaches. Find them all at: https://www.pilotlearning.com/

Social Media Like Aviation News Talk podcast on Facebook Follow Max on Instagram Follow Max on Twitter Listen to all Aviation News Talk podcasts on YouTube or YouTube Premium

"Go Around" song used by permission of Ken Dravis; you can buy his music at kendravis.com

If you purchase a product through a link on our site, we may receive compensation.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Aviation News Talk – Pilot Stories, Safety Tips & General Aviation NewsBy Max Trescott | Aviation News Talk Network

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

747 ratings


More shows like Aviation News Talk – Pilot Stories, Safety Tips & General Aviation News

View all
The Finer Points - Aviation Podcast by Jason Miller

The Finer Points - Aviation Podcast

382 Listeners

Airplane Geeks Podcast by Airplane Geeks

Airplane Geeks Podcast

392 Listeners

AOPA Never Again by AOPA

AOPA Never Again

226 Listeners

Airline Pilot Guy - Aviation Podcast by Capt Jeff

Airline Pilot Guy - Aviation Podcast

647 Listeners

Hangar Talk - An Aviation Podcast by AOPA

Hangar Talk - An Aviation Podcast

110 Listeners

Pilot to Pilot by Justin Siems

Pilot to Pilot

947 Listeners

AvTalk - Aviation Podcast by Flightradar24

AvTalk - Aviation Podcast

700 Listeners

"There I was..." An Aviation Podcast by AOPA Air Safety Institute

"There I was..." An Aviation Podcast

295 Listeners

Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk by Air Traffic Talk

Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

914 Listeners

21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast by 21Five Podcast

21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast

344 Listeners

Flight Safety Detectives by flightsafetydetectives

Flight Safety Detectives

333 Listeners

Ask the A&Ps by AOPA

Ask the A&Ps

275 Listeners

I Learned About Flying From That by Flying Magazine

I Learned About Flying From That

212 Listeners

Pilot's Discretion from Sporty's by Sporty's Pilot Shop

Pilot's Discretion from Sporty's

159 Listeners

NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot Lessons by Max Trescott | Aviation News Talk Network

NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot Lessons

27 Listeners