L&D Must Change

41. The Secret to Learning That Lasts with Katrina Kennedy


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What if the key to better learning isn't more content, but less? In this episode, Jess Almlie sits down with L&D expert Katrina Kennedy to explore how simplifying learning experiences and building in moments of reflection can transform behavior and performance. They unpack practical ways to focus on what really matters: workplace impact, learner ownership, and giving people the time and space they need to make learning stick.

Jess and Katrina Discuss

  • Why simplicity beats sophistication in learning design
  • How reflection boosts retention and real behavior change
  • The myth that "more content equals more learning"
  • Practical ways to add reflection(even in one-hour sessions)
  • How to handle stakeholder pushback and focus on outcomes
  • Why reflection isn't just looking back. It's preparing to move forward

About Katrina Kennedy

Katrina Kennedy, known as the "trainer's trainer," is a facilitator and speaker with 25+ years in learning and development. She has helped thousands of subject matter experts design and deliver engaging learning experiences in a variety of industries. Her forthcoming book, Learning That Lasts; Reflection Activities for Trainers and Designers released on October 21, 2025.

Find and Connect with Katrina Kennedy

  • LinkedIn
  • Website: www.katrinakennedy.com
  • Book: Learning That Lasts: Reflection Activities for Trainers and Designers

Find and Connect with Jess Almlie

  • LinkedIn
  • Website: www.jessalmlie.com
  • Book: L&D Order Taker No More! Become a Strategic Business Partner

Additional Links Mentioned in the Episode

  • Kolb's Experiential Learning Theory
  • The History of Toothpaste (Wikipedia)
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