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Vincent Bevins, author of If We Burn: The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution and The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade & the Mass Murder Program That Shaped Our World, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Vincent discuss how, from 2010 to 2020, more people participated in protests than at any point in human history, the factors that drove protests in countries like Brazil, Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey, Hong Kong, and Ukraine, the short-term success and long-term checkered track-record of mass protests, and why he believes the conventional wisdom on revolutionary change is gravely misguided.