In this episode of National Fire Radio, Jeremy Donch reconnects with Shimek for another candid, unscripted conversation that feels more like therapy than a traditional podcast. What begins with humor quickly turns into a meaningful discussion on leadership, mentorship, accountability, and the responsibility the fire service has to its newest members.

Shimek shares his experience speaking to a new recruit class and the realization that today’s probies are not only inexperienced in the job, but often inexperienced in life. Together, they explore the growing generational disconnect in the firehouse, the importance of laying a strong foundation early, and why “doing the dirt work” through conversation and presence matters long before the first bad call.

The discussion dives into the emotional side of the job that no one prepares you for—trauma, late nights, and the tendency for young firefighters to pull back when things get heavy. Jeremy and Shimek stress that while mentorship is critical, personal ownership and accountability are just as important. Not everything can be taught, and growth requires both guidance and self-driven effort.

The episode also touches on legacy, storytelling, and why capturing experience from senior firefighters matters now more than ever. Honest, reflective, and deeply relatable, this conversation reinforces why conversation truly is ventilation—and why these talks resonate far beyond the firehouse.