In this episode, Jacob sits down with Grant Johnson and Dane Laughlin (previous interviews are #34 and #42, respectively). Grant is a self-taught developer and college dropout and Dane is a leading expert in the XR industry who has spoken at MIT (x2) and Amazon ReInvent. In this episode, we discuss Grant's Humanoid, the future of technology, what businesses' Dane and Grant would start tomorrow, and much more.

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