On today’s episode of The Ultimate Assist, John Stockton and Ken Ruettgers sit down with tech billionaire Steve Kirsch—the inventor behind the optical mouse and a Silicon Valley success story who says he never intended to enter the vaccine debate… until the data forced him to.

Kirsch recounts the moment he says everything changed: stories of sudden deaths, heart attacks minutes after vaccination, and what he describes as “too many black swans” to ignore. Now founder of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation, he walks through why he believes the Covid vaccines failed basic safety standards, how FDA and CDC safety signals were ignored, and why no autopsies were required even as serious adverse events mounted.

From offering millions to debate vaccine proponents, to citing government data from the Czech Republic, to accusing regulators and media of protecting an agenda over public health, Kirsch lays out one of the most uncompromising critiques yet of the pandemic response.

Love him or hate him, this episode is a raw, data-driven challenge to the phrase that defined an era: “safe and effective.”

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