Anne Burdick is a graphic designer, writer, researcher, and educator. She's the chair of the Art Center College of Design's Media Design Program and has written for publications like Emigre and Eye. In this episode, Anne and I talk about her own background and journey through design — which we discovered had many parallels to my own design career. We also talk about new modes of practice, the relationships between writing and designing, and asking the big questions of design's role in society and culture. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.