Brad Laughlin is the author of Living with Enlightenment—A Journey of Love, which is about his 25-year life-partnership with Leslie Temple-Thurston, a teacher of enlightenment, and the profound spiritual transformation he experienced. With Leslie, he is co-author of two books, The Marriage of Spirit—Enlightened Living in Today’s World and Returning to Oneness—The Seven Keys of Ascension.

Brad is dedicated to finding innovative ways of helping people to awaken spiritually and to find love, joy and inspiration during these times of great change. Using ancient Truth teachings, yogic practices and spiritual psychology, he offers simple yet powerful practices for dissolving old, limiting ego structures that keep us trapped in negativity, pain and fear. Brad’s transformative events are based on the principles of integration and unity consciousness, which help us to know our own inner Divinity—who we truly are.

Brad and Leslie are co-founders of the nonprofits, CoreLight.org and Seeds of Light.org, CoreLight’s humanitarian arm, serving marginalized communities and AIDS orphans in South Africa. Brad has a bachelor’s degree from Duke University. He is an American by birth, considers himself a global citizen and lives in both South Africa and the United States.

Anna Breytenbach is an internationally acclaimed professional interspecies communicator with over 20 years’ experience. Native to South Africa and currently based in Europe, she mentors and consults globally. Her focus is exclusively with wild places and beings, facilitating peaceful interventions and greater understanding. This includes predator research, wilderness protection, anti-poaching assistance, reforestation initiatives, wildlife management and rehabilitation. She is currently taking a sabbatical from her usual teaching and public appearances to write a book.

Anna’s passion is raising awareness and advancing the relationships among human and nonhuman animals, on both the personal and spiritual levels. Her work is the subject of the documentary movie "The Animal Communicator”, watched by tens of millions of people (and a few of their pets), available on YouTube.

Anna's website: The Animal Communicator | AnimalSpirit

YouTube Channel

Anna's first BatGap interview

Brad and Anna’s online course is For the Love of Animals—A Call to the Heart

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group

Summary and transcript of this interview

Interview recorded January 28, 2024

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump

00:03:56 - Introduction and Background

00:07:26 - From Cheetah Handler to Animal Communicator and Author

00:11:55 - Following Your Inner Calling

00:16:10 - Holding Space for Elephants

00:20:35 - Collective Consciousness and Communication

00:23:42 - The Collective Expressions of Consciousness and Earth Energies

00:27:34 - The Joy of Whales Breaching

00:31:16 - Rediscovering the Intelligence of Nature

00:34:08 - The Importance of Functioning with Intelligence in Society

00:38:08 - The Intelligence of Stones and Non-Moving Beings

00:42:05 - Cruelty to Vegetables and Choosing Love for Animals

00:47:06 - An Evergreen Online Course on Interspecies Communication

00:51:36 - Valuing Different Paths in Life

00:56:41 - Profound Mystical Experiences and the Search for Answers

01:01:07 - The Ball of Light and Healing Energy

01:05:42 - Transitioning into a Higher State

01:11:02 - Pure Joy and Presence

01:16:50 - Quantum Entanglement and Communication

01:19:46 - Perception and the Importance of Clearing Ego Noise

01:24:03 - Rethinking Human Love for Animals

01:27:32 - Animals' Compassion and Journey to Loving Humans

01:31:00 - Communicating with Plants and the Tragedy of the Rabbits

01:33:40 - The Oak Trees' Compassion and Rabbit Friendships

01:36:49 - The Sensitivity of an Enlightened Being

01:40:21 - Animals in Distress and Disassociation

01:43:43 - Dealing with Doubt in Animal Communication

01:46:37 - The Possibility of Societal Collapse

01:51:27 - Choosing Love and Connection

01:55:50 - Promoting Email List and Featured Course

01:59:18 - Gratitude for Teachers