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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Ger Jones to explore how pastors can help their churches recover a renewed vision for evangelism. Drawing from his ministry at Vintage Church in Los Angeles and his experience with Alpha, Ger shares how churches can create spaces where spiritually curious people feel loved, heard and safe to explore Jesus. Together, they discuss why evangelism must begin with empathy, how listening can soften hearts, and why clear gospel proclamation still matters. This conversation equips pastors to reach the lost with humility, courage and renewed compassion. 

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