Girls Talk Healthy Aging

75: Why Women Tear Each Other Down: With Lisa Dixon Wells


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In this powerful episode of Girls Talk Healthy Aging, co-host Shawna Kaminski sits down with Lisa Dixon Wells, a trailblazer in bully prevention and mental health advocacy.  Lisa and Shawna dive deep into the unique ways bullying manifests among women, particularly through relational social bullying such as gossip, exclusion, and rumor-spreading. With the rise of text groups and social media, these behaviors have become even more pervasive and damaging. Women’s relationships often operate with a delicate balance, making indirect aggression more common. Many of us may unknowingly engage in these patterns, but Lisa provides eye-opening strategies on how to foster healthier and more supportive connections with other women.

Lisa is the founder of the Dare to Care program, a leading initiative in creating safer schools and communities. With an impressive background as a 14-time World Masters Swimming Champion and a former member of the Canadian National Swim Club, Lisa brings both personal and professional experience to the conversation. She shares insights on how bullying differs from healthy conflict, emphasizing the critical distinction of power imbalance—where the target has little to no power in the situation.

Lisa shares practical tools to empower individuals facing bullying or harassment, highlighting the importance of practicing assertiveness. Women, in particular, may struggle with standing up for themselves, but as Lisa reminds us, addressing the issue head-on is often all that is needed to shift the dynamic.

Bullying isn’t just a childhood issue—those patterns can follow us into adulthood, impacting workplaces, friendships, and communities. This episode offers valuable takeaways for listeners of all ages, helping us recognize and break these cycles for a healthier, more supportive environment. Tune in to hear Lisa’s expert advice on how to create lasting change and stand up against bullying in all its forms.

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