Paul Rogers is a financial planner turned author who wrote Money, Love, and Bitcoin, a book exploring the spiritual and societal implications of sound money.

In this episode, you’re going to learn how inflation silently robs regular people of their ability to save, why Paul believes most people don’t actually want to invest—they just want to be secure, how Bitcoin could shift humanity’s focus from extraction to contribution, what universal laws like love and energetic balance have to do with money, and how a sound money system might change not only economies but the way we live and relate to each other.

Timestamps:

[00:00] Introduction

[00:48] Fix the money fix the world

[02:11] Building systems after money is fixed

[04:01] Bitcoin and synchronizing consciousness

[06:01] Why saving is hard in an inflationary system

[07:10] The mindset of the average investor

[08:15] Freedom from versus freedom to

[09:06] Bitcoin as a foundation for deeper life questions

[10:00] The premise of money, love, and Bitcoin

[11:30] Understanding money as a technology

[12:14] The problem of extraction vs contribution

[13:22] Jeff Booth and falling prices

[14:04] More people doing meaningful work

[14:45] How commercialism shapes our worldview

[15:33] Not everything in life is transactional

[16:10] High time preference and broken systems

[17:00] The importance of love in systems

[18:50] FX trading as a symptom of fiat distortion

[19:36] Universal law and quantum principles

[20:20] The influence of the Tao of Physics

[21:12] Everything is energy and vibration

[22:01] The radio frequency analogy

[23:18] Media distraction and energetic disconnection

[24:00] From analog to digital age

[25:00] Access to ideas throughout history

[25:55] Tuning into higher frequencies

[26:22] Can love be scientifically proven

[27:05] Replacing extractive systems with aligned ones

[28:01] Broken systems and political distraction

[29:10] Fiat money versus thermodynamics

[30:03] The impossibility of reconciling fiat logic

[31:02] Jargon in traditional finance

[31:50] Rethinking money as government-controlled

[32:40] Money as stored labor and energy

[33:15] Creating money without creating value

[34:03] Paul’s optimism about humanity’s future

[34:52] Moms working multiple jobs and broken incentives

[35:40] People shouldn't need PhDs to survive

[36:18] Building systems that serve instead of exploit

[37:01] Avoiding centralized replacements

[37:55] The digital age requires new visions

[38:40] Drowning in data without wisdom

[39:28] Ancient myths and cultural guardrails

[40:15] Scientific thinking vs traditional wisdom

[41:00] The Bitcoiners as a new social class

[41:52] Final settlement vs endless credit

[42:30] Importance of integrity and love

[43:12] Interstellar as a metaphor for quantum love

Resources Mentioned:

Money, Love, and Bitcoin by Paul Rogers | Book

The Dao of Bitcoin by Scott Dedels | Book or Audiobook

The Bitcoin Standard by Saifedean Ammous | Book or Audiobook

The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra | Book

The Systems View of Life by Fritjof Capra and Pier Luigi Luisi | Book

The Bushido of Bitcoin by Aleksandar Svetski | Book

The Block Reward episode on Bitcoin is Synchronizing Human Consciousness with Tomer Strolight | Spotify or Apple

If you want to connect with Paul, find him on X, LinkedIn, Instagram, and YouTube.

Find more from Scott:

Scott Dedels | X

Block Rewards | Instagram

Block Rewards | YouTube

Block Rewards | TikTok

Block Rewards | Website

Block Rewards | LinkedIn

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