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When businesses stall, it’s rarely because the market moved too fast — it’s because leadership didn’t. In this episode, Bud, Moneyball Ross, and Data Mike sit down with Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp, COO of Knight Insurance and creator of the Spinning Wheels Model, to unpack how resistance to change, dysfunctional culture, and assumed continuity quietly drive once-great organizations into decline.
Together, they explore:
🧠 The psychology behind why teams resist change — and how to move them forward.
🏌️♂️ “Country-club leadership” in beer distribution — and what it really costs.
📸 What Kodak and Sears can teach every family-run business about innovation and decline.
⚠️ The danger of assuming “we’ve always been fine.”
🧰 Practical steps leaders can take to diagnose decline before it’s too late.
Diane also introduces her Organizational Traction Survey, a free tool that helps leaders see if their teams are spinning wheels or gaining traction.
🎧 Listen if: You’re leading a team that feels stuck, fighting complacency, or trying to push change in a “that’s-how-we’ve-always-done-it” culture.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
04:32 Meet Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp
07:02 The Spinning Wheels Model Explained
12:20 Resistance to Change and Organizational Decline
16:46 The Importance of Metrics and Gut Checks
21:39 Navigating Change in the Beer Distribution Industry
26:37 Navigating Generational Leadership Transitions
28:04 Overcoming Fear in Leadership
29:07 The Psychology of Change Resistance
32:27 Strategies for Driving Organizational Change
34:24 Practical Approaches to Managing Long-Tenured Employees
43:10 Introducing the Organizational Traction Survey
47:50 Understanding Organizational Structures and Change
49:40 The Importance of Actioning Survey Results
🔗 Resources Mentioned:
📊 The Organizational Traction Survey https://bgsu.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cO4Kxfdo06hYSy2
👩🏫 Connect with Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/diane-keil-hipp-ph-d-4490bb4
📬 Contact the VXP Team ✉️ [email protected] | 🌐 vxptech.com
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About Tapped In Sales:
Tapped In Sales is a podcast dedicated to beer distributors and beverage industry professionals who are looking to elevate their sales strategies and drive profitability. Hosted by industry experts Bud Dunn and Mike Hall, we dive deep into real-world stories, actionable insights, and the latest trends to help sales teams and managers unlock their full potential. Each episode blends data, strategy, and motivation, making complex topics easy to understand and implement.
This podcast is powered by VXP Tech – the leading Sales Strategy Management system designed for beer distributors. VXP simplifies the complexities of goal setting, variable compensation, and sales team performance, helping you master your market and grow profits, case by case.
Stay tuned for expert advice, fresh perspectives, and tools to sharpen your sales approach!
If you enjoyed the episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend!
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When businesses stall, it’s rarely because the market moved too fast — it’s because leadership didn’t. In this episode, Bud, Moneyball Ross, and Data Mike sit down with Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp, COO of Knight Insurance and creator of the Spinning Wheels Model, to unpack how resistance to change, dysfunctional culture, and assumed continuity quietly drive once-great organizations into decline.
Together, they explore:
🧠 The psychology behind why teams resist change — and how to move them forward.
🏌️♂️ “Country-club leadership” in beer distribution — and what it really costs.
📸 What Kodak and Sears can teach every family-run business about innovation and decline.
⚠️ The danger of assuming “we’ve always been fine.”
🧰 Practical steps leaders can take to diagnose decline before it’s too late.
Diane also introduces her Organizational Traction Survey, a free tool that helps leaders see if their teams are spinning wheels or gaining traction.
🎧 Listen if: You’re leading a team that feels stuck, fighting complacency, or trying to push change in a “that’s-how-we’ve-always-done-it” culture.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
04:32 Meet Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp
07:02 The Spinning Wheels Model Explained
12:20 Resistance to Change and Organizational Decline
16:46 The Importance of Metrics and Gut Checks
21:39 Navigating Change in the Beer Distribution Industry
26:37 Navigating Generational Leadership Transitions
28:04 Overcoming Fear in Leadership
29:07 The Psychology of Change Resistance
32:27 Strategies for Driving Organizational Change
34:24 Practical Approaches to Managing Long-Tenured Employees
43:10 Introducing the Organizational Traction Survey
47:50 Understanding Organizational Structures and Change
49:40 The Importance of Actioning Survey Results
🔗 Resources Mentioned:
📊 The Organizational Traction Survey https://bgsu.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cO4Kxfdo06hYSy2
👩🏫 Connect with Dr. Diane Keil-Hipp on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/diane-keil-hipp-ph-d-4490bb4
📬 Contact the VXP Team ✉️ [email protected] | 🌐 vxptech.com
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YouTube: Watch on YouTube: Tapped In Sales Spotify Podcast: Listen & Watch on Spotify Podcasts Tapped In Sales
Apple Podcasts: Listen on Apple Podcast Tapped In Sales
===============
Connect with Us:
Follow us on LinkedIn for the latest episodes, industry news, and insights from the beer distribution world.
About Tapped In Sales:
Tapped In Sales is a podcast dedicated to beer distributors and beverage industry professionals who are looking to elevate their sales strategies and drive profitability. Hosted by industry experts Bud Dunn and Mike Hall, we dive deep into real-world stories, actionable insights, and the latest trends to help sales teams and managers unlock their full potential. Each episode blends data, strategy, and motivation, making complex topics easy to understand and implement.
This podcast is powered by VXP Tech – the leading Sales Strategy Management system designed for beer distributors. VXP simplifies the complexities of goal setting, variable compensation, and sales team performance, helping you master your market and grow profits, case by case.
Stay tuned for expert advice, fresh perspectives, and tools to sharpen your sales approach!
If you enjoyed the episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend!

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