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90 : Teaching Financial Independence To The Next Generation with Rob Phelan


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In this episode: Teaching Kids Financial Independence, Allowance, Rob’s road to FI and more.

In this episode of the Mindful Fire Podcast, Rob Phelan, a high school math and personal finance teacher, shares his passion for teaching about money and raising a financially responsible generation. He discusses his own journey into personal finance and how to equip children with better decision-making skills for their future. He also emphasizes the importance of personal finance and the role of teachers in educating students.

Guest Bio

Rob Phelan is a high school math and personal finance teacher living in Maryland. He is also a certified financial education instructor and very passionate about helping kids, teachers, and parents learn about money and become financially responsible. He has written a children's book called "M is for Money" and runs his own business called "The Simple Startup" where he teaches 10 to 18-year-olds how to start their own businesses.



Resources & Books Mentioned

  • M for Money : Rob’s Children’s Book 
  • The Simple Startup by Rob Phelan

Rob Phelan’s Contact Information

  • Websites: 
    • SimpleStartup.com
    • MisforMoneybook.com
  • Instagram : @FIeducator
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robphelan/

Key Takeaways

  • It's crucial to start building positive money habits and mindsets in young children since the majority of our money habits are set by age nine.
  • Parents and educators spend the most time with children, making it important to educate them about personal finance. This will equip children to make better decisions in the future.
  • Understanding personal finance and money management is essential for achieving financial independence, which gives you more options and control over your future.

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