This week, Kate is joined by the hilarious Ashley Hesseltine (comedian, founder of @brosbeingbasic, co-host of Girls Gotta Eat podcast) to talk about many things, but mostly, they keep going back to the same pressing topic: the art of trying to be a hot girl who gets attention from boys at a suburban high school. Ira Glass could never. We cover a lot of ground, from the expectations bestowed upon tall people that result in being a JV Junior, to cheerleading, to prom dates and late blooming, to a short-lived stint in a sorority as a result of a highly successful personal rebrand. We also discuss Ashley's incredible career trajectory, GGE's successful tour, her experience speaking openly about sex & dating, magical spring break trips, Instagram likes, and a myriad of other entertaining topics. Follow Ashley @ashhess and @girlsgotteatpodcast. Enjoy!

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