There is bracing. And there is breaking. In today’s episode, learn why the latter is so essential to healing, to liberation, and to creation. Featuring the amazing liminalist Oceana Sawyer, this is a conversation about what we gain when we “lose” (control, fear, conditioning…), and what can be received only when we truly open.

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