In this very special and deeply personal episode, I sit down with the wisest woman I know, my 97-year-old grandmother, Shirley Curtis.

We recorded a conversation prior to this as a way to preserve our family history, but the response from my community when I shared a photo of us talking was so overwhelming that I knew I had to bring it to Good Skin Circle. And I’m so glad I did.

My grandma grew up during the Great Depression on a working farm, where her father raised registered Black Angus cattle. She started working at the age of 10 and never stopped. She’s lived through wars, economic downturns, societal shifts, and the kind of day-to-day sacrifice most of us couldn’t imagine.

In our conversation, she shares what it was like to live her entire life in a marriage that lacked, but was built on loyalty and family values. She opens up about the reality of self-sacrifice, her unwavering commitment to kindness and respect, and her belief that like attracts like, and kind attracts kind.

It’s honest. It’s funny. It’s emotional.

It’s the type of conversation that gently reminds you how privileged we are — to have choices, to pursue work we love, and to practice self-care as an act of freedom.

I cried listening back to it. I hope it stirs something in you, too. <3

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