Something is definitely happening in the AI world, but how seriously should we take it? Is this another hype cycle or a genuine inflection point?

Sean Illing talks with journalist Kelsey Piper (formerly of Vox, now at The Argument) about what’s changed, why AI “agents” are a different beast than yesterday’s chatbots, and why the debate is stuck between two lazy positions: total panic or total shrug. They get into the incentives driving the labs, what “alignment” even means, and why the real fear isn’t Terminator-style robots, but powerful systems sliding into everything before we’re ready.

Host: Sean Illing (@SeanIlling)

Guest: Kelsey Piper (@KelseyTuoc)

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