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  • His startup powers OpenAI's Voice Mode. Last month, they became a unicorn. | Russ d’Sa, Co-Founder of LiveKit

    Russ was running a moderately successful live streaming startup. Then he got a terrifying offer from a tech giant: sell to us for cheap, or we'll crush you. He had no leverage. He was about to fold.

    Then he got an email from OpenAI. They had secretly built ChatGPT's voice mode on his infrastructure. Overnight, everything changed. 

    In this episode, Russ reveals the wild story of how LiveKit became the backbone of multimodal AI, why he almost sold his previous company for parts, and how to survive when the biggest companies in the world are breathing down your neck.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to secretly power ChatGPT’s voice mode.
    • Why you should build "boring" infrastructure instead of AI apps.
    • How to negotiate an acquihire when you have no leverage.
    • Why a "sell or die" threat from a tech giant was the best thing to happen.
    • How to pivot from a failed consumer app to a unicorn infrastructure play.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, AI infrastructure, multimodal AI, OpenAI, ChatGPT voice mode, founder stories, pivot, LiveKit

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:49 The OG YC Batch Experience
    00:07:08 How to Sell a Failing Startup
    00:15:51 The "Good Cop, Bad Cop" Investor Negotiation
    00:35:56 The First Voice AI Demo That Flopped
    00:38:29 The Secret Email from OpenAI
    00:43:47 How to Scale Stateful Voice Agents

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    56 min
  • He pivoted at $1M ARR—then raised $120M. | Kevin Tian, Co-Founder of Doppel

    Kevin was building a successful startup in the NFT space. They'd hit $1M ARR. But he looked at the market and realized it wasn't big enough. So he made the terrifying choice to pivot the entire company into cybersecurity.

    In this episode, Kevin breaks down how he navigated that transition without killing the business. He reveals how he sold his first $5k/month contract with no product, why he raised a massive seed round he didn't need, and how he convinced Andreessen Horowitz to lead his Series A in the middle of a strategic shift.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to pivot from a bad market to a unicorn opportunity.
    • Why he sold a $5k/month contract with zero product.
    • How to raise a Series A from a16z during a pivot.
    • Why you never truly "find" Product Market Fit.
    • The danger of building for a niche market (and how to escape).

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, pivot, cybersecurity, crypto startup, a16z, raising series a, Kevin Tian

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:17 Meeting at Uber and the "Glass Eating" Phase
    00:07:21 The First Idea
    00:11:52 Selling the First $5k/Month Contract with No Product
    00:16:52 The Decision to Pivot at $1M ARR
    00:29:43 Network Selling to Enterprise Cybersecurity
    00:32:03 Raising Series A from a16z During a Pivot
    00:33:36 Why Product Market Fit is Not a One-Time Event
    00:35:10 Action Produces Insights

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    37 min
  • He sold his first startup for $100M. Then raised $250M in 18 months. | Dileep Thazhmon, Founder of Jeeves

    Dileep sold his first company for over $100M. For his second act, he didn't just want another win; he wanted to solve a problem that banks refused to touch: global business banking.

    In this episode, Dileep breaks down how Jeeves scaled to $7M ARR in just over a year by doing things that "don't scale"—like physically mailing credit cards to Argentina. 

    He reveals the counterintuitive strategy of raising from dozens of small investors, how to pivot a fintech when interest rates skyrocket, and why being an outsider was his biggest advantage in building a global banking infrastructure from scratch.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to get to $7M ARR in one year through unscalable acts.
    • Why a "messy" cap table with 50+ investors is actually a secret weapon.
    • The "Beat Down" Framework: A brutal stress test for vetting your idea.
    • The offline marketing stunt that actually worked.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, fintech startup, global expansion, second time founder, Y Combinator, fundraising strategy, B2B banking, finding pmf

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:04 Selling His First Company for $100M
    00:08:19 The "Beat Down" Framework for New Ideas
    00:19:38 The One Metric That Matters for PMF
    00:24:44 Why Join YC as a Second-Time Founder?
    00:29:15 Shipping Cards to Argentina by Hand
    00:39:13 The Pivot to Jeeves Pay When Cards Got Shut Down
    00:43:25 The "Messy Cap Table" Fundraising Strategy
    00:49:27 The Moment of True Product Market Fit

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    56 min
  • He sold his first 2 startups. His 3rd grew to $1M ARR in 3 months. | Chaz Englander, Founder of Model ML

    Chaz has founded 3 companies. The first sold for over $40M. The second sold to GoPuff for even more. Now, he’s on his third act with Model ML, having just raised $75M Series A <2 years in.

    In this episode, Chaz breaks down the playbook behind his successes. He reveals how he raised his first million by pitching strangers on LinkedIn, why his delivery startup was just a text message system on the backend, and why speed is the only defensive moat left.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to pitch strangers on LinkedIn for angel checks.
    • Why you should always say you're raising "a bit more" than you actually are.
    • Why "Product Market Fit" is no longer static in the age of AI.
    • How to launch a massive consumer business.
    • Why getting a paid design partner isn't enough.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, serial entrepreneur, fundraising strategy, product market fit, rapid scaling, AI startup, exit strategy, MVP, fintech

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:04:46 Pitching Strangers for Angel Checks
    00:07:51 The "Fake" Fundraising Strategy
    00:23:28 Why MVPs are Dead in the AI Era
    00:25:01 Selling to GoPuff While Running Out of Cash
    00:32:25 The Origin of ModelML
    00:38:30 The Design Partner Playbook
    00:46:13 From $5k to $100k MRR in 3 Months

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    50 min
  • He fired all his customers. Then built a $1B startup in 2 years. | Jay Madheswaran, Co-Founder of Eve

    Jay was running a respectable AI startup with $3M ARR. But he knew it wasn't a venture-scale rocket ship. So, he decided to fire all his customers, pivot the entire company, and bet everything on a new vertical: legal AI for plaintiff attorneys.

    Eve went from zero to unicorn status in under two years, raising $100M at a $1B valuation. 

    In this episode, Jay breaks down the brutal reality of pivoting a revenue-generating company, how to achieve "demo shock" in an antiquated industry, and why 4-hour user sessions were the first sign that he had struck gold.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How threatening to shut down your product can reveal PMF.
    • Why firing all your existing customers might be the only way to scale.
    • How to achieve a 40% conversion rate from cold outreach to demo.
    • Why you should target mid market instead of enterprise if you want to deploy AI fast.

    Keywords
    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, pivot, legal tech, AI startup, B2B sales, unicorn startup, Jay Madheswaran, Eve

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:27 From VC to Founder
    00:08:42 The First Idea: RPA for NLP
    00:16:52 The Hard Decision to Pivot at 3M ARR
    00:24:26 Product Discovery While Still Supporting Old Customers
    00:33:56 40 Percent Conversion from Cold Outreach
    00:39:56 Firing Customers to Find True PMF
    00:41:06 The 4-Hour User Session Signal
    00:46:05 From 1M to 10M ARR in One Year
    00:49:11 The Moment of True Product Market Fit

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    53 min
  • He wrote the book on Account Based Marketing. Here are his GTM secrets for enterprise. | Bassem Hamdy, Founder of Briq

    Bassem took Briq from a failed data idea to a Series B leader in construction financial automation.But the path wasn't linear. 

    In this episode, Bassem reveals how he pivoted to RPA bots, why he killed a high-growth fintech product to survive the 2023 cash crunch, and how he uses a relentless "Go-to-Market" strategy. He breaks down his exact ABM playbook, why he hates trade shows, and why he believes AI orchestration is a bigger shift than the cloud.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to identify the "Challenger" who will kill your deal.
    • Why trade shows are a waste of money (and what to do instead).
    • The "1-Person Webinar" hack to close high-value accounts.
    • The brutal reality of cutting 50% of staff to survive.
    • Why selling "risk reduction" beats selling "time saved."

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, account based marketing, construction tech, go to market strategy, enterprise sales, finding pmf, robotic process automation, ai orchestration

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:06:23 The RPA "Aha" Moment with a Tech Giant
    00:11:52 Selling Risk vs. Selling Time Saved
    00:13:27 The "New CFO" Signal in Account Based Marketing
    00:17:06 Identifying the "Challenger" in Enterprise Sales
    00:23:22 The 1-Person Webinar Strategy
    00:29:19 Killing the Fintech Product to Survive 2023
    00:36:20 Why You Never Truly Have Product Market Fit

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    40 min
  • He got rejected from YC—then grew to $1.8B in under 2 years. | Max Junestrand, Founder of Legora

    Max went from a YC rejection to building a $1.8B company in less than two years. His company, Legora, is the fastest YC-backed company to become a unicorn in history. 

    His path to insane growth was not standard: after raising a massive Series A, Max told his board he was pausing all new sales for six months to rebuild the product infrastructure.

    In this episode, Max breaks down the "burn the boats" mentality that drove their growth, the specific demo tactics that convert 55% of prospects, and how to build an engineering culture that ships fast enough to beat incumbents like Thomson Reuters.

    Why You Should Listen

    • Why he shut down sales for 6 months immediately after raising $35M.
    • How a single live demo stunt at a conference generated 150 qualified leads.
    • The aggressive pitch strategy that turned a YC rejection into an acceptance.
    • How to close a $10M round with Benchmark after a single meeting.
    • Why you should encourage your enterprise clients to run bake-offs.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, AI legal tech, Y Combinator, hypergrowth, enterprise sales, Benchmark Capital, fundraising strategy, rapid scaling

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:06:51 Getting Rejected by Y Combinator
    00:15:37 Living on 50k Euros with Design Partners
    00:30:19 The Live Demo That Booked 150 Meetings
    00:34:06 Raising $10M from Benchmark in 30 Minutes
    00:35:13 Shutting Down Sales After Raising Series A
    00:46:36 How to Win 85 Percent of Competitive Deals
    00:50:05 The Moment of True Product Market Fit

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    53 min
  • He sold dog food from his condo. Now he does $100M+ a year. | Russell Breuer, Founder of Spot & Tango

    Russell went from working in private equity to hand-delivering dog food on the NYC subway at 5 a.m. He didn't start with a VC check; he started with a studio apartment kitchen and a belief that dog food was broken.

    In this episode, Russell breaks down how he turned a side hustle into Spot & Tango, a direct-to-consumer giant doing over $100M in revenue. 

    He reveals the gritty reality of early-stage CPG, why he vertically integrated his own factory when everyone else outsourced, and how a simple "fresh dry" product innovation called UnKibble unlocked massive scale.

    Why You Should Listen

    • How to scale from a studio apartment kitchen to $100M+ revenue.
    • How a simple packaging choice created a premium brand identity.
    • Why your second product might become your biggest winner.
    • Why the best performing ad creative is often the cheapest.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, DTC startup, CPG brand, direct to consumer, scaling a startup, founder stories, Spot and Tango

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:30 From Private Equity to Dog Food
    00:07:36 Hand-Delivering to the First Customer
    00:11:57 The Dark Ages: Cooking in a Shared Kitchen
    00:19:17 Pricing Strategy Without Sales Data
    00:22:50 The Pink Butcher Paper Brand Identity
    00:26:26 Launching UnKibble: The 9-Figure Product
    00:31:52 Why Vertical Integration is a Moat
    00:40:54 The Best Ad Creative is a Sticky Note
    00:47:09 Selling Out Inventory in 4 Days

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    52 min
  • He made 100 cold calls a day. Now his startup is worth $600M. | Harman Narula, Founder of Canary Technologies

    Harman went from cold-calling hotels 100 times a day to building the category-defining guest management platform for the hospitality industry. Canary built a $600M company by first solving one tiny, annoying problem: paper credit card authorization forms.

    In this episode, Harman breaks down how a simple digital form became the wedge into thousands of hotels. He reveals why they stuck with outbound sales long after hitting millions in revenue, the terror of collecting physical checks during the first week of COVID, and the exact moment he knew they had hit product-market fit.

    Why You Should Listen

    • The "Activated Hair on Fire" framework: How to turn a latent problem into a must-have purchase.
    • Why outbound sales (and cold calling) is often your top early growth channel.
    • How to use a simple, "unscalable" wedge to unlock a massive market.
    • Why you should celebrate the lows: A counterintuitive take on managing founder psychology.
    • The story of signing 200+ customers in a single day (and finding true PMF).

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, finding pmf, vertical saas, outbound sales, cold calling strategies, early stage growth, b2b sales, hospitality tech

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:13 From Management Consulting to Hotel Tech
    00:11:32 The Paper Form that Launched a Company
    00:17:35 The Activated Hair on Fire Framework
    00:24:26 Landing the First Customer via Cold Call
    00:28:21 Applying to YC 
    00:32:35 Making 100 Cold Calls a Day
    00:43:42 The COVID Cash Flow Panic
    00:48:27 Signing 200 Customers in One Day

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    53 min
  • He got 100k signups in 30 days. They all churned. 2 years later, he hit $10M ARR. | Rich White, Founder of Fathom

    In this episode, Rich breaks down the wild story of Fathom's launch. He reveals how they secured a prime spot on the Zoom Marketplace and generated 100,000 signups in 30 days—only to realize 99.9% of them were useless. 

    He discusses the pivot to monetization when the market crashed, how to design a product for viral loops, and why staying in private beta for 10 months was the best decision he ever made.

    Why You Should Listen

    • Why getting 100,000 signups in a single month nearly killed the company.
    • How to use the "Iceberg Strategy" to build a defensible moat.
    • Why you should attack the "800-pound gorilla" incumbent.
    • How to hit $100k ARR by selling a roadmap that doesn't exist yet.
    • The "Visible Feature" mechanic that drives zero-cost viral growth in B2B.

    Keywords

    startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, viral growth, product market fit, AI startup, freemium strategy, Zoom marketplace, PLG, B2B sales, Fathom

    00:00:00 Intro
    00:03:14 Why Sales Reps Hated Gong
    00:07:54 Betting on Transcription Costs Going to Zero
    00:11:52 The 10 Month Private Beta Strategy
    00:17:46 The Zoom Marketplace Launch
    00:19:52 100k Signups and Zero Growth
    00:26:39 Selling a Roadmap to Hit 100k ARR
    00:33:53 The Viral Loop of Visible Bots
    00:36:12 Why Enterprise Sales Was a Trap
    00:39:51 The Moment of True Product Market Fit

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    43 min

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