It's hard to call it unbelievable when a 96-year-old mortal shuffles off, but Queen Elizabeth II's final departure has had a peculiar effect. Hoping to have the feeling articulated without sentimentality, we asked on a couple English friends (Charlie Cooke filling in for Peter and London Calling's Toby Young) to discuss her importance, and what her death means for the Commonwealth.

We get into Charles III and the future of the monarchy; wonder whether the public ethic and sense of mission will die with the Queen; and the idea that ironic humor may be what holds the whole thing together. Plus, Charlie approves of Ron DeSantis' "Thank you, Governor" ad; and Rob finds some amusement mayors up north making statements that sound oddly similar to Greg Abbot and Doug Ducey's with regard to immigration surges.

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