Sandy is back for a third time because once again his career has taken a shift and he wanted to come talk about it. When he was first on the couch we talked about his unique style of treating, he returned to talk about a new way of assessing which levelled up his practice working primarily with golfers, and this time he’s back and working in education and giving back to the profession he’s been a part of for almost 3 decades. We talked about massage curriculum, techniques, debates about the evidence behind massage therapy education, how to be a better public speaker and teacher, and preparing students to be great clinicians. Check out an episode with a whole lotta shop talk!