00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol

01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs

02:20 - From corporate to crypto art

04:12 - Expectations and burnout

05:26 - Abigail’s background

06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 

09:32 - Crypto roots and art school

11:07 - Space struggles and growth

14:25 - Echo chamber and reset

18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation

21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience

23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10 

27:11 - The missing middle ground for artists

30:53 - Avant Arte operations

36:01 - Artists, curators and different value propositions

40:41 - Industry challenges behind the scenes 

41:33 - Vertical’s hard lessons

45:10 - Building in public

45:36 - Feeling on the periphery of the community

47:46 - Women going quiet

49:18 - Social media burnout

56:09 - Beyond Twitter, IRLs and mailing lists 

58:09 - Why female artists tend to be under represented  

01:06:05 - Bro culture and access

01:10:24 - Sustainability and long-term thinking 

01:12:37 - Women supporting women

01:22:03 - Checks, balances and ensuring growth 

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