00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol

01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs

02:20 - From corporate to crypto art

04:12 - Expectations and burnout

05:26 - Abigail’s background

06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 

09:32 - Crypto roots and art school

11:07 - Space struggles and growth

14:25 - Echo chamber and reset

18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation

21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience

23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10 

27:11 - The missing middle ground for artists

30:53 - Avant Arte operations

36:01 - Artists, curators and different value propositions

40:41 - Industry challenges behind the scenes 

41:33 - Vertical’s hard lessons

45:10 - Building in public

45:36 - Feeling on the periphery of the community

47:46 - Women going quiet

49:18 - Social media burnout

56:09 - Beyond Twitter, IRLs and mailing lists 

58:09 - Why female artists tend to be under represented  

01:06:05 - Bro culture and access

01:10:24 - Sustainability and long-term thinking 

01:12:37 - Women supporting women

01:22:03 - Checks, balances and ensuring growth 

https://x.com/micolmicolmicol 

https://x.com/proofofgail

https://x.com/avant_arte

00:24 - Verse Talks returns

02:55 - The state of affairs in digital art

04:40 - Launching new work, market cycles and algorithm whiplash

07:56 - Focusing on the internet as a canvas 

09:15 - The difficulty in bridging crypto and wider internet culture 

16:15 - Where are all the new artists post Art Basel's success? 

17:55 - Crypto liquidity and its impact on the digital art market  

20:34 - Building a diversified practice 

22:35 - Has there been a shift in Jack's audience post Art Basel Miami?

28:40 - Over-indexing on institutions, the same names and public fatigue

31:27 - What actually changed after Art Basel Miami?

35:57 - Moving beyond Crypto Twitter 

37:20 - Parallels between institutions interacting with crypto art and BTC's adoption by TradFi 

42:09 - The benefit of releasing work into a quiet market 

45:45 - Is 2020–21 Ethereum culture dying?

49:53 - The SILK model: global events, Eastern markets and physical-first collabs

52:48 - Jack Butcher at Art Basel Hong Kong

01:00:28 - Batsoupyum, cabals and treating money as meaning

01:03:55 - An argument for looking outside the echo chamber  

01:06:41 - NFT aesthetics and the BAYC era

01:07:21 - Crypto art vs. art on the blockchain

01:08:13 - Node’s opening

01:10:42 - SuperRare's new exhibition, "We Have Digital Art At Home"

01:12:01 - Why Art Basel is so hard: costs and risks

01:13:33 - Bridging to the traditional art world and expanding beyond our bubble

01:17:24 - Martín Bruce's GEOCITIES auction

01:20:23 - Fresh blood, new energy and what’s next 

https://x.com/pocobelli

https://x.com/jackbutcher 

https://x.com/DnoTAO 

https://silkarthouse.com/

00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak

01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs

03:25 - The Tabcorp universe

05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre 

11:10 - A critique of corporate culture

12:45 - The process behind Human Resources 

16:05 - Traits and rarity  

19:00 - Are we the PFPs?   

19:57  - Community and the future of Tabcorp 

21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds 

25:50 - Determining the number of traits 

29:07 - The relationship between Human Resources and Tabcorp 

31:05 - Building the network 

36:09 - Addressing diversity and conceptual challenges

41:36 - Exploring release mechanics and mint allocations 

47:31 - How NFTs have fed into Tabor's broader practice

51:49 - What drew Tabor to NFTs as a medium  

55:25 - Challenges and perceptions in the art world 

58:20 - Online fatigue and a move back towards IRL

59:49 - Indexing Human Resources 

01:03:34 - The simulation as a medium 

01:06:20 - Tabcorp Labs artwork updates 

01:08:25 - Keeping pace with technological change 

01:10:22 - Art as a brand and the studio as a factory  

01:13:47 - The social dimension of an artwork 

https://www.taborrobak.com 

https://x.com/taborrobak

Human Resources: https://verse.works/series/human-resources 

01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers

01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology

02:08 - Art school experiences and early career

07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry

10:59 - An artistic approach to programming

17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations

24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art

37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S

42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience participation

44:29 - Cryptocurrency and cultural misunderstandings

46:19 - Blockchain's artistic and conceptual impact

52:17 - Early days of Ethereum and smart contracts

01:01:27 - Art and blockchain: a symbiotic relationship

01:09:51 - The evolution of crypto art and NFTs

01:12:08 - The Fractionalized Phallus and gender identity

01:19:57 - Navigating the art and crypto worlds

01:22:31 - Reflections on the artistic origins of NFTs

01:24:03 - Gallery collaborations and curatorial insights 

01:31:20 - Emotional depth, authorship, and personal resonance 

01:34:44 - Introducing Koala Noosphere

01:40:02 - The concept of ownership in NFTs

01:52:41 - Future projects and final thoughts

00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun

01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation

03:23 - Why Palo Alto?

04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley

06:14 - The role of Node in the art community

15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach

19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation

25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards

26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids

28:06 - Creating cultural impact and a distinct brand

31:20 - Node's vision and nonprofit model

34:39 - Sustaining Node and community support

43:34 - The importance of physical and digital spaces

https://x.com/philmohun 

https://x.com/nodefnd?s=21&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw 

https://nodefoundation.com/

01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad

02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey 

07:16 - Transition to creative computing 

14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art 

15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding 

19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded

25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide 

34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career 

34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI 

36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium 

36:59 - Challenges and breakthroughs 

42:36 - Recognition and impact of (un)stable equilibrium 

44:08 - PhD experience and artistic practice 

50:27 - AI art and data ethics 

52:15 - NFTs and connecting with collectors 

55:27 - Future directions and inspirations 

01:03:38 - Network bending, Teratome and other works 

01:09:32 - How AI has shifted perceptions around creativity 

https://terencebroad.com  

Terence Broad on X 

https://verse.works/exhibitions/unstable-equilibrium

00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved 

04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture

06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission

08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art

10:42 The Shift to Now Media

15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council

21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding 

24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art

26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional Spaces

29:34 Interactive and Immersive Digital Art

33:00 - Highlights and Reflections from the fair

41:02 - Live on the ground inside zero 10

https://nowmedia.co 

Matt Medved: https://x.com/mattmedved 

Now Media: https://x.com/nowmedia 

01:42 - Welcome Laurie Simmons 

04:17 - Early inspiration, New York and formative travel 

07:25 - Artistic beginnings and creative identity 

12:00 - Politics, rebellion and activism    

14:57 - Navigating gender norms and early works  

21:45 - AI and artistic evolution 

27:55 - Photography and artistic identity 

30:26 - Connections and collaborations 

32:32 - Meeting kindred spirits in the art world 

33:08 - Defining movements and appropriation 

35:05 - Rejecting the previous generation’s approach

37:14 - Navigating the art world and personal identity 

40:26 - Embracing NFTs and digital art  

43:39 - Thinking about the space as a separate art world 

47:53 - What causes the stigma around NFTs and AI among legacy artists  

50:24 - The changing landscape of the art world 

54:40 - Looking forward towards the future 

Laurie Simmons: https://x.com/simmonslaurie 

Black & White: https://www.alminerech.com/exhibitions/11587-laurie-simmons-black-white 

01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol

02:07 - Blade Runner, media architecture and early inspirations    

03:34 - Defining data painting

04:45 - The concept of data as pigment

07:44 - Fusing art and architecture 

10:24 - Viral success and public art

13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation 

16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach 

21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive impact 

25:10 - Galleries, collectors and shifting understandings 

29:10 - Avoiding the hype and staying focused 

31:19 - Collaborating with Messi        

38:03 - Public perception and criticism 

45:08 - Early blockchain exploration

47:25 - Unsupervised at MoMA 

48:34 - Balancing physical and digital art

49:41 - Challenges and opportunities in web3

54:27 - The vision behind Dataland 

01:00:02 - Thinking in "living systems"

01:03:09 - The role of technology in art 

01:07:18 - Art as a celebration of humanity  

01:11:59 - Collaborating with Demis Hassabis and Jensen Huang  

01:20:44 - Future plans and collaborations 

Refik Anadol: https://x.com/refikanadol 

https://dataland.art/

Dataland Residency Program: https://dataland.art/blog/introducing-the-dataland-ai-artist-residency

00:50 - Early days and the Art Blocks boom

03:48 - A mixed-media approach to a generative practice 

05:02 - From Noise 

08:50 - Exploring gestural mark-making through an algorithmic practice 

10:39 - The power of messy ideas and an unrestricted output space 

15:01 - Where the art lies 

16:30 - The curation process behind From Noise 

18:21 - Thinking about how the work exists physically 

22:55 - Unpacking an artist's need to create and experiment 

24:24 - Sketching with code and the genesis of From Noise 

27:22 - The pressure in a series-based format 

28:59 - Avoiding trends and examining the impact of new technologies 

30:50 - Edward Hopper and a lesson in authenticity 

33:30 - Detaching from social media 

35:20 - What represents personal success 

36:30 - Agnes Martin and going all in on the work 

37:42 - On Marfa, community and the future of digital art 

39:28 - Tyler's personal collection and its impact on his work 

41:09 - Rejecting the idea of persona as a brand 

42:30 - Exploring the different stereotypes around digital and physical artists  

46:15 - The cultural influence of the computer  

https://www.tylerxhobbs.com 

Tyler Hobbs Studio: https://x.com/tylerxhobbs

Tyler Hobbs on Messy Ideas: https://www.tylerxhobbs.com/words/direction-reaction-and-messy-ideas