00:47 - Welcome Paul Pfeiffer 

03:07 - The spectacle of sport 

07:06 - Exploring the implications of new technology 

10:05 - Working with digital media in the early 1990s 

14:50 - The blurring of the digital and the human 

20:08 - How media consumption has shifted across the last thirty years 

23:50 - The stadium as mediatised architecture 

30:57 - New work and developing projects     

Paul Pfeiffer: https://www.instagram.com/pmp2021  

00:48 - Diving into the Solana trenches 

07:40 - PFP culture and Drilady 

08:50 - Chain-specific culture and why Solana makes sense 

14:26 - Parker Ito and the impact of Horses?2 

17:00 - A different community of artists and collectors 

19:00 - Jay's mid-curve meme 

20:34 - Raoul Pal and consensus vs non-consensus 

27:40 - Should we all be bullposting? 

29:40 - AB[500] and does shuttering encourage long-term value accrual 

32:55 - Verse rundown 

35:08 - Debriefing on Quantizer 

40:37 - Feral File and Net Evil 

42:30 - Solo vs group shows 

45:20 - Artist highlights 

MCHX: https://x.com/mchx17 

supermetalx: https://x.com/supermetalx 

serezha galkin: https://x.com/graphicapng 

Terence Broad: https://x.com/terrybroad 

Mike Balzer: https://x.com/pxlshrd

00:38 - Welcome Parker Ito 

05:25 - Tumblr, Post-Internet scene and finding community 

12:20 - The effect of early success 

20:30 - Disillusionment with the art world 

24:25 - What caused the market to boom 

26:28 - Deep lore, Basel 2015 and Leonardo DiCaprio 

30:01 - The compromises needed to work as an artist 

33:03 - Through-lines and stylistic tropes 

35:10 - A non-hierarchical approach 

38:17 - Discovering NFTs 

39:50 - Balancing the traditional art world and the NFT space  

42:27 - Cultural friction and the benefit to the stigma around NFTs 

46:00 - Finding the Solana scene 

48:17 - Horses, Drifella 2, Drilady and Parkerito.net

52:55 - The Pilgrim’s Living Room Crucifixion; Mona Lisa Hyper-Gamble 

58:10 - Traitmaxxing, repetition and composition 

01:01:55 - The working process of the Living Room Crucifixion 

01:10:50 - Ambiguity within the art work 

01:13:17 - The work as a metaphor for a psychological space 

01:16:15 - Objects, layers and series traits 

01:19:01 - Beyond Living Room Crucifixion 

01:21:20 - The artist residency at the Bellagio 

Parker Ito: https://x.com/creamydreamy 

https://verse.works/series/the-pilgrims-living-room-crucifixion-mona-lisa-hyper-gamble-by-parker-ito

00:48 - Welcome Adam Levine 

01:15 - What sets the Toledo Museum of Art apart 

05:22 - Ensuring the community has access to culture 

07:20 - The benefit of private funding 

10:10 - TMA's digital program 

13:25 - The history and founding principles of the museum 

21:20 - An emphasis on craft, skill and aesthetic quality 

27:10 - Artist studios, manufacturing and industrial process 

31:20 - Infinite Images: The Art of Algorithms 

33:40 - The Digital Artist-in-Residence Program and community onboarding 

43:23 - A focus on innovation and strategy 

46:10 - Adam's path to NFTs 

49:45 - Repeat visitation as a key performance metric 

54:40 - "Integrating art into people's lives" 

56:25 - Expanding the audience for digital art 

01:03:16 - Verse roundtable 

01:07:10 - Cultural accessibility, funding and profitability 

01:16:55 - Why Artie is exiting the space 

01:24:25 - Release cadence 

01:30:57 - The difficulty of finding sustainability as a platform 

01:37:20 - A maturation of the space 

01:41:30 - The potential for a reshaping of consensus around the blue chips 

01:44:55 - Harm van den Dorpel 

01:49:23 - Verse rundown 

01:50:25 - Artist highlights 

01:51:50 - Debriefing on Terence Broad 

Toledo Museum of Art: https://x.com/toledomuseum

noper: https://x.com/bagdelete 

Kevin McCoy: https://x.com/mccoyspace 

Jennifer McCoy: https://x.com/jennmccoyspace

00:40 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel 

01:35 - Working with plotters 

05:06 - Creative beginnings 

08:45 - A grounding in early AI 

11:20 - From tech to art school 

13:50 - The shifting context around digital presentation

16:10 - The development of post-internet art 

18:00 - Separating sales and practice 

22:40 - Markov's Window 

25:00 - Establishing Left gallery and discovering blockchain 

30:33 - The stress of managing a gallery 

32:01 - The importance of true digital ownership 

35:29 - Mutant Garden Seeder 

38:15 - Exploring Quantizer 

40:40 - Algorithmic archeology 

42:45 - Dithering and Quantizer's traits 

46:42 - Two seeds and a double system 

50:20 - The reason for artist curation 

52:02 - Mandalas, Buddhism and the influence on Quantizer 

56:00 - Transience and permanence 

58:20 - Surprise born from a system 

01:04:10 - Meditation machines 

01:08:12 - The relationship between an artists practice and the market 

01:09:55 - Defining the digital and physical worlds 

01:12:40 - Preserving a digital work 

01:15:43 - The thinking behind the series size 

01:19:45 - What's next? 

Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel  

Quantizer: https://verse.works/series/quantizer-by-harm-van-den-dorpel?itemId=2f5761c0-0e42-4457-a844-6bd9f854adf5

00:44 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi 

03:05 - Nasty Nets, Club Internet and the early surf clubs 

09:05 - Creating context and community through curation 

12:40 - Ongoing scepticism around blockchain and NFTs 

18:00 - Left Gallery, early blockchain based ownership and speculation 

20:10 - The speed of secondary in the digital world 

22:00 - On creating Quantizer 

27:10 - A true reflection of the blockchain and networked broadcast 

33:40 - The ideal way to display and experience the work 

41:30 - The expressive power of the blockchain 

Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel

Regina Harsanyi: https://x.com/reginaharsanyi 

00:35 - Welcome Steve McKeon 

02:25 - Navigating the dot-com boom and bust 

08:19 - A winding path to tenure 

13:20 - Discovering crypto 

15:50 - Writing Traditional Asset Tokenisation 

19:30 - The birth of Collab+Currency 

24:50 - A shift to consumer focus and NFTs 

28:30 - Equity vs tokens 

33:45 - The Art Blocks [500] 

36:15 - Collectibility and end caps 

38:05 - Traditional art, sculpture and Jim Dine 

45:20 - Donald Judd and Marfa 

49:30 - The birth of Glitch 

53:45 - An investment thesis based on passion 

55:33 - Collecting personally vs fund investment 

01:01:20 - The future of the space and growth of digital culture 

01:06:21 - Infrastructure companies, user lock-in and network effects 

01:11:11 - Verse round table 

01:12:25 - SOLOS points 

01:27:39 - Terence Broad and (un)stable equilibrium 

01:33:13 - Curatorial practice and thoughts on artist guidance 

01:42:44 - What is an NFT artist 

01:45:25 - Reclaiming the term NFT 

01:47:00 - Artist highlights pt 1

01:48:44 - Catching up on fxhash 

01:54:00 - Artist highlights pt 2 

01:55:35 - Verse rundown 

Steve McKeon: https://x.com/sbmckeon

AL: https://x.com/alekustn 

Mark Horowitz: https://www.instagram.com/marchorowitz 

Terence Broad: https://x.com/terrybroad 

Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel 

Jonathan Chomko: https://x.com/jtchomko 

benedict: https://x.com/ibenedictfuc12 

canek zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata 

Rocio Mio: https://x.com/rociomiobosque 

03:00 - Luba Elliott on Terence Broad 

04:15 - Autoencoding Blade Runner 

09:25 - Machine learning in 2016 

12:31 - Arriving at the crossroads of technology and art 

15:35 - Why Blade Runner? 

19:05 - Luba and Terrence's collaboration through Feral File 

22:06 - (un)stable equilibrium 

25:00 - The conceptual journey behind the work 

29:50 - Imperfect copies and more constraints 

31:35 - The construction of the final video pieces 

34:55 - A renewed mainstream interest in the work 

40:01 - Looping in latent space 

41:49 - Future explorations around (un)stable equilibrium 

44:53 - The possibilities NFTs open up for a digital practice  

https://x.com/terrybroad 

https://x.com/elluba 

https://verse.works/series/un-stable-equilibrium-by-terence-broad?itemId=07c502f4-8cec-47bf-9eac-8a9c0d2a0bc0

00:50 - Welcome Roger Dickerman 

02:48 - The importance of a physical space 

06:02 - Roger's journey into digital art 

07:45 - A deliberate imbalance 

11:02 - Controlling the bookends 

14:15 - The birth of Artifex and 24 Hours of Art 

20:25 - Sustainability and longevity 

22:35 - Putting the work in and riding out the bear 

24:45 - A process of iteration and evolution 

28:35 - "One foot in the market, one foot firmly in the love of the art" 

30:05 - The objectivity of price action

35:31 - How to define excellence and quality in art 

39:25 - The impact of exposure to work 

42:00 - Feeling vs technical precision 

46:07 - A new energy in the space 

48:30 - Testing convictions and responding to crisis 

52:18 - Community, Sam Spratt and the power of participation 

58:58 - Acting with focus and intention 

01:01:45 - Ingredients for success 

01:05:30 - Assessing the market and thinking about trajectory 

01:10:30 - Verse roundtable 

01:11:05 - The Art Blocks 500 

01:16:15 - Eternalising a time period and creating canon 

01:23:10 - Institutional interest and supporting collectors 

01:24:45 - Takashi Murakami's 108 Flowers Revised 

01:37:28 - Traditional artists' impact on the perception of space 

01:43:02 - Speculation and gambling 

01:47:15 - Taking personal responsibility for purchases and decisions 

01:51:07 - Murakami's tweet and lack of awareness 

01:52:50 - The complexity of collecting work on the blockchain 

01:57:45 - Collecting to be part of a community vs collecting with an awareness of price potential 

02:03:49 - Dalos Dov's Do Machines Dream of Human Bodies 

02:06:30 - Valent's Athanasia 

02:11:30 - The importance of authentic community engagement 

02:21:46 - Verse rundown 

Roger Dickerman: https://x.com/rogerdickerman 

24 Hours of Art: https://x.com/24_hours_art

Paul Pfeiffer: https://www.instagram.com/pmp2021 

itsgalo: https://x.com/galoandstuff  

brawlers world: https://x.com/brawlersworld

Valent: https://x.com/0xvalent 

Dalos Dov: https://x.com/dalos 

This week we sat down with seasoned advisor Eli Scheinman to discuss his new role at Art Basel, what’s driving the market’s fresh momentum, how today’s collectors are maturing and how to frame emerging work for a more traditional crowd.

00:50 - Welcome Eli Scheinman 

02:39 - Why the market's moving 

04:30 - The trickle-down effect of big sales 

07:07 - New entrants into the space 

09:48 - The flow from collectibles and PFPs into art 

14:37 - Eli's role with Art Basel 

21:30 - Evolving in the face of a challenging market 

23:00 - How to create excitement and understanding among new audiences 

24:30 - Context is key 

28:49 - World-building, narrative and sponsorship 

33:04 - Collections as an identity layer and a discovery tool 

34:50 - Friction points when onboarding from the traditional space 

40:20 - How things have changed across cycles 

46:00 - Lower barriers to participation in the digital space and their effects

49:00 - The maturation of the core collector base 

51:10 - Kim Asendorf's PXL DEX, private sales and new points of discovery 

56:45 - Artist highlights 

01:02:40 - Social media's impact on an artists career 

Eli Scheinman: https://x.com/eli_schein

Karyn Nakamura: https://www.instagram.com/frog_spit_simulation 

Canek Zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata 

Agoston Nagy: https://x.com/_stc 

Li Yi-Fan: https://www.instagram.com/liyifanyifanli