01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol

02:07 - Blade Runner, media architecture and early inspirations    

03:34 - Defining data painting

04:45 - The concept of data as pigment

07:44 - Fusing art and architecture 

10:24 - Viral success and public art

13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation 

16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach 

21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive impact 

25:10 - Galleries, collectors and shifting understandings 

29:10 - Avoiding the hype and staying focused 

31:19 - Collaborating with Messi        

38:03 - Public perception and criticism 

45:08 - Early blockchain exploration

47:25 - Unsupervised at MoMA 

48:34 - Balancing physical and digital art

49:41 - Challenges and opportunities in web3

54:27 - The vision behind Dataland 

01:00:02 - Thinking in "living systems"

01:03:09 - The role of technology in art 

01:07:18 - Art as a celebration of humanity  

01:11:59 - Collaborating with Demis Hassabis and Jensen Huang  

01:20:44 - Future plans and collaborations 

Refik Anadol: https://x.com/refikanadol 

https://dataland.art/

Dataland Residency Program: https://dataland.art/blog/introducing-the-dataland-ai-artist-residency