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00:35 - Welcome Rafaël Rozendaal
02:55 - The advantage of a conversational archive
06:21 - The influence of travel and cultural heritage
08:25 - Neen, LA and digital art in the late '90s
12:06 - Growing up in an artistic household
14:32 - Grants, funding and commercial pressure
16:35 - The potential of the early internet
21:00 - Art school and early connections
27:30 - Berlin and Post-Internet
31:30 - The impact of New York on a working practice
35:36 - A window to the creative process
38:15 - The importance of painting
40:21 - The power of a minimal approach
42:15 - Discovering blockchain and NFTs
45:01 - A new audience and a new perspective
49:55 - Papertoilet.com and unintended virality
56:40 - Quantifying effort, success and quality
59:50 - MoMa and allowing the space to curate the work
01:01:45 - Twist
01:03:20 - Thinking with your brush
01:05:15 - The origin of Rooms
01:07:40 - Colour, saturation, contrast and iteration
01:10:53 - The advantage of working with a gallery
01:16:26 - What's next
Rafaël Rozendaal: https://x.com/newrafael
Fellowship: https://x.com/fellowshiptrust
https://fellowship.xyz/exhibition/rafael-rozendaal-rooms
00:46 - Welcome Jared Madere
03:19 - The genesis of Yeche Lange
09:20 - Market consolidation and post-2021
11:00 - Exploring the role of the gallery in the Web3 space
16:18 - What caused the scene to develop on Solana
18:03 - The growth of community
21:59 - Earl16o1, trader fiction and chart paintings
25:35 - Compatibility with the traditional sphere
31:40 - A new mode of operating for a changing art world
40:20 - Market transparency vs. market opacity
46:33 - Embracing risk and volatility
50:35 - Looking to the future of Yeche and VVV
58:15 - The reuse of assets and creation of derivatives
01:03:55 - The development of art coins
01:06:30 - Series sizing and artistic output
01:09:40 - VAJ and Vajunnie
01:15:20 - The growth of the scene and new collectors
01:23:53 - The origin of the term Gay NFT
01:26:40 - How people outside the space can orientate themselves
01:31:45 - The importance of physicality and living with art
VVV: https://x.com/vvvdotso
Galerie Yeche Lange: https://x.com/yeche_lange
wretched worm: https://x.com/wretched_worm
spiky dj: https://x.com/spiky_dj_
Bosh: https://x.com/supermetalx
kid xanthrax: https://x.com/id_xanthrax
Parker Ito: https://x.com/creamydreamy
earl16o1: https://x.com/earl16o1
Tojiba Brand Manager: https://x.com/m_m_____m____mm
mifella: https://x.com/mmifella
evil biscuit: https://x.com/bis__cut
fairybaby420: https://x.com/fairybaby420
lowbie: https://x.com/archivepilled
Gremlins: https://x.com/gremlins2movie
Alex Mackin Dolan: https://www.alexmackindolan.com
Vajunnie: https://x.com/vaj_mindpalace
00:47 - Welcome Paul Pfeiffer
03:07 - The spectacle of sport
07:06 - Exploring the implications of new technology
10:05 - Working with digital media in the early 1990s
14:50 - The blurring of the digital and the human
20:08 - How media consumption has shifted across the last thirty years
23:50 - The stadium as mediatised architecture
30:57 - New work and developing projects
Paul Pfeiffer: https://www.instagram.com/pmp2021
00:48 - Diving into the Solana trenches
07:40 - PFP culture and Drilady
08:50 - Chain-specific culture and why Solana makes sense
14:26 - Parker Ito and the impact of Horses?2
17:00 - A different community of artists and collectors
19:00 - Jay's mid-curve meme
20:34 - Raoul Pal and consensus vs non-consensus
27:40 - Should we all be bullposting?
29:40 - AB[500] and does shuttering encourage long-term value accrual
32:55 - Verse rundown
35:08 - Debriefing on Quantizer
40:37 - Feral File and Net Evil
42:30 - Solo vs group shows
45:20 - Artist highlights
MCHX: https://x.com/mchx17
supermetalx: https://x.com/supermetalx
serezha galkin: https://x.com/graphicapng
Terence Broad: https://x.com/terrybroad
Mike Balzer: https://x.com/pxlshrd
00:38 - Welcome Parker Ito
05:25 - Tumblr, Post-Internet scene and finding community
12:20 - The effect of early success
20:30 - Disillusionment with the art world
24:25 - What caused the market to boom
26:28 - Deep lore, Basel 2015 and Leonardo DiCaprio
30:01 - The compromises needed to work as an artist
33:03 - Through-lines and stylistic tropes
35:10 - A non-hierarchical approach
38:17 - Discovering NFTs
39:50 - Balancing the traditional art world and the NFT space
42:27 - Cultural friction and the benefit to the stigma around NFTs
46:00 - Finding the Solana scene
48:17 - Horses, Drifella 2, Drilady and Parkerito.net
52:55 - The Pilgrim’s Living Room Crucifixion; Mona Lisa Hyper-Gamble
58:10 - Traitmaxxing, repetition and composition
01:01:55 - The working process of the Living Room Crucifixion
01:10:50 - Ambiguity within the art work
01:13:17 - The work as a metaphor for a psychological space
01:16:15 - Objects, layers and series traits
01:19:01 - Beyond Living Room Crucifixion
01:21:20 - The artist residency at the Bellagio
Parker Ito: https://x.com/creamydreamy
https://verse.works/series/the-pilgrims-living-room-crucifixion-mona-lisa-hyper-gamble-by-parker-ito
00:48 - Welcome Adam Levine
01:15 - What sets the Toledo Museum of Art apart
05:22 - Ensuring the community has access to culture
07:20 - The benefit of private funding
10:10 - TMA's digital program
13:25 - The history and founding principles of the museum
21:20 - An emphasis on craft, skill and aesthetic quality
27:10 - Artist studios, manufacturing and industrial process
31:20 - Infinite Images: The Art of Algorithms
33:40 - The Digital Artist-in-Residence Program and community onboarding
43:23 - A focus on innovation and strategy
46:10 - Adam's path to NFTs
49:45 - Repeat visitation as a key performance metric
54:40 - "Integrating art into people's lives"
56:25 - Expanding the audience for digital art
01:03:16 - Verse roundtable
01:07:10 - Cultural accessibility, funding and profitability
01:16:55 - Why Artie is exiting the space
01:24:25 - Release cadence
01:30:57 - The difficulty of finding sustainability as a platform
01:37:20 - A maturation of the space
01:41:30 - The potential for a reshaping of consensus around the blue chips
01:44:55 - Harm van den Dorpel
01:49:23 - Verse rundown
01:50:25 - Artist highlights
01:51:50 - Debriefing on Terence Broad
Toledo Museum of Art: https://x.com/toledomuseum
noper: https://x.com/bagdelete
Kevin McCoy: https://x.com/mccoyspace
Jennifer McCoy: https://x.com/jennmccoyspace
00:40 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel
01:35 - Working with plotters
05:06 - Creative beginnings
08:45 - A grounding in early AI
11:20 - From tech to art school
13:50 - The shifting context around digital presentation
16:10 - The development of post-internet art
18:00 - Separating sales and practice
22:40 - Markov's Window
25:00 - Establishing Left gallery and discovering blockchain
30:33 - The stress of managing a gallery
32:01 - The importance of true digital ownership
35:29 - Mutant Garden Seeder
38:15 - Exploring Quantizer
40:40 - Algorithmic archeology
42:45 - Dithering and Quantizer's traits
46:42 - Two seeds and a double system
50:20 - The reason for artist curation
52:02 - Mandalas, Buddhism and the influence on Quantizer
56:00 - Transience and permanence
58:20 - Surprise born from a system
01:04:10 - Meditation machines
01:08:12 - The relationship between an artists practice and the market
01:09:55 - Defining the digital and physical worlds
01:12:40 - Preserving a digital work
01:15:43 - The thinking behind the series size
01:19:45 - What's next?
Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel
Quantizer: https://verse.works/series/quantizer-by-harm-van-den-dorpel?itemId=2f5761c0-0e42-4457-a844-6bd9f854adf5
00:44 - Welcome Harm van den Dorpel and Regina Harsanyi
03:05 - Nasty Nets, Club Internet and the early surf clubs
09:05 - Creating context and community through curation
12:40 - Ongoing scepticism around blockchain and NFTs
18:00 - Left Gallery, early blockchain based ownership and speculation
20:10 - The speed of secondary in the digital world
22:00 - On creating Quantizer
27:10 - A true reflection of the blockchain and networked broadcast
33:40 - The ideal way to display and experience the work
41:30 - The expressive power of the blockchain
Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel
Regina Harsanyi: https://x.com/reginaharsanyi
00:35 - Welcome Steve McKeon
02:25 - Navigating the dot-com boom and bust
08:19 - A winding path to tenure
13:20 - Discovering crypto
15:50 - Writing Traditional Asset Tokenisation
19:30 - The birth of Collab+Currency
24:50 - A shift to consumer focus and NFTs
28:30 - Equity vs tokens
33:45 - The Art Blocks [500]
36:15 - Collectibility and end caps
38:05 - Traditional art, sculpture and Jim Dine
45:20 - Donald Judd and Marfa
49:30 - The birth of Glitch
53:45 - An investment thesis based on passion
55:33 - Collecting personally vs fund investment
01:01:20 - The future of the space and growth of digital culture
01:06:21 - Infrastructure companies, user lock-in and network effects
01:11:11 - Verse round table
01:12:25 - SOLOS points
01:27:39 - Terence Broad and (un)stable equilibrium
01:33:13 - Curatorial practice and thoughts on artist guidance
01:42:44 - What is an NFT artist
01:45:25 - Reclaiming the term NFT
01:47:00 - Artist highlights pt 1
01:48:44 - Catching up on fxhash
01:54:00 - Artist highlights pt 2
01:55:35 - Verse rundown
Steve McKeon: https://x.com/sbmckeon
AL: https://x.com/alekustn
Mark Horowitz: https://www.instagram.com/marchorowitz
Terence Broad: https://x.com/terrybroad
Harm van den Dorpel: https://x.com/harmvddorpel
Jonathan Chomko: https://x.com/jtchomko
benedict: https://x.com/ibenedictfuc12
canek zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata
Rocio Mio: https://x.com/rociomiobosque
03:00 - Luba Elliott on Terence Broad
04:15 - Autoencoding Blade Runner
09:25 - Machine learning in 2016
12:31 - Arriving at the crossroads of technology and art
15:35 - Why Blade Runner?
19:05 - Luba and Terrence's collaboration through Feral File
22:06 - (un)stable equilibrium
25:00 - The conceptual journey behind the work
29:50 - Imperfect copies and more constraints
31:35 - The construction of the final video pieces
34:55 - A renewed mainstream interest in the work
40:01 - Looping in latent space
41:49 - Future explorations around (un)stable equilibrium
44:53 - The possibilities NFTs open up for a digital practice
https://x.com/terrybroad
https://x.com/elluba
https://verse.works/series/un-stable-equilibrium-by-terence-broad?itemId=07c502f4-8cec-47bf-9eac-8a9c0d2a0bc0
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