In this episode, the hosts discuss the ideal situation for women at 35 and in the long-term, focusing on Scandinavia and Switzerland. They explore the decline in women's overall well-being, including increased rates of depression, burnout, and anxiety, particularly among young women. The hosts question the messaging that young women receive, such as the emphasis on achieving independence, a long university degree, and a career, as well as the portrayal of men as useless accessories. They also discuss the breakdown of social norms and the portrayal of single-parent families as the norm rather than a cautionary tale. They share personal stories about their career-driven focus and the regrets they have about not considering the long-term consequences of their choices earlier in life. The episode aims to encourage listeners to reflect on their own choices and challenge societal messaging about what constitutes a successful life for women.

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