Joe and Tom chat poaching, or anti-poaching with Jay. They discuss silly things like the time Jay’s whisky was stolen in the bush, the time Joe got ‘mock’ charged by an elephant and Jay gives us his best leopard impression.

But they also tackle more serious topics like trophy hunting, sustenance poaching and the devastating impact of commercial poaching on rhinos, elephants and pangolin. So please be prepared for some difficult listening in this one.

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