Chinese espionage expert Matthew Brazil and Jeff Stein break down the controversy about Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley’s backchannel contact with his Chinese counterpart, and Jeanne Meserve and transnational crime expert Tom Sanderson discuss the emergence of Talibani Afghanistan as a terrorist state. 

See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/SpyTalker

Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/isikoff

Follow SpyTalk on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/talk_spy

Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack

https://www.spytalk.co/

Take our listener survey where you can give us feedback.

http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=short