The combination of the Auckland floods and the impact of cyclone Gabrielle served as forceful reminder that climate change is here. 

Lives have been lost, homes destroyed and livelihoods obliterated in the worst storm we’ve seen in the 21st century.

Seeing the scale of the destruction moved Climate Change Minister and Green Party co-leader James Shaw to make an impassioned speech about the decades we’ve wasted bickering about whether climate change was even real.

So how much time have we lost? How do we catch up? And can we now the find the political will to make the necessary changes?

Today, James Shaw tells Damien why he’s appalled, and what the country should do to rebuild from these events.    

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