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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Emmett Shear, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, who now runs Softmax AI alignment. Emmett argues that current AI safety approaches focused on "systems of control" are fundamentally flawed and proposes "organic alignment" instead—where AI systems develop genuine care for their local communities rather than following rigid rules.
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Full transcript available here: www.complexsystemspodcast.com/ai-alignment-with-emmett-shear/
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Sponsor: Framer is a design and publishing platform that collapses the toolchain between wireframes and production-ready websites. Design, iterate, and publish in one workspace. Start free at framer.com/design with code COMPLEXSYSTEMS for a free month of Framer Pro.
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Timestamps:
(01:26) Understanding AI alignment
(04:42) The concept of universal constructors
(13:45) AI's rapid progress and practical applications
(19:08) Sponsor: Framer
(20:19) AI's impact on work
(34:59) AI's sensory and action space
(42:10) User intent vs. user request
(44:35) The illusion of a perfect AI
(49:57) Causal emergence and system dynamics
(55:19) Reflective and intentional alignment
(01:01:08) Engineering challenges in AI alignment
(01:04:15) The future of AI
(01:26:40) Wrap
By Patrick McKenzie4.8
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Emmett Shear, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, who now runs Softmax AI alignment. Emmett argues that current AI safety approaches focused on "systems of control" are fundamentally flawed and proposes "organic alignment" instead—where AI systems develop genuine care for their local communities rather than following rigid rules.
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Full transcript available here: www.complexsystemspodcast.com/ai-alignment-with-emmett-shear/
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Sponsor: Framer is a design and publishing platform that collapses the toolchain between wireframes and production-ready websites. Design, iterate, and publish in one workspace. Start free at framer.com/design with code COMPLEXSYSTEMS for a free month of Framer Pro.
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Links:
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Timestamps:
(01:26) Understanding AI alignment
(04:42) The concept of universal constructors
(13:45) AI's rapid progress and practical applications
(19:08) Sponsor: Framer
(20:19) AI's impact on work
(34:59) AI's sensory and action space
(42:10) User intent vs. user request
(44:35) The illusion of a perfect AI
(49:57) Causal emergence and system dynamics
(55:19) Reflective and intentional alignment
(01:01:08) Engineering challenges in AI alignment
(01:04:15) The future of AI
(01:26:40) Wrap

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