AI has moved fast, and so has 37signals’ thinking. This week, host Kimberly Rhodes talks to co-founder and CTO David Heinemeier Hansson about the progress AI has made over the last few months. David shares what’s changed, what’s actually useful now, and why his outlook has grown more optimistic.

Key Takeaways

• 00:11 – How today’s AI feels dramatically more powerful
• 05:05 – David’s real-world experience working with AI agents
• 23:36 – How AI can help non-programmers
• 31:05 – Why the upside of AI outweighs the potential risks

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