Doug discusses his public back-and-forth with Kendrick Perkins over the significance of race in the Embiid/Jokic MVP race.

Then, Head Coach of the African League’s Cape Town Tigers Rasheed Hazzard joins Gottlieb to discuss growing up as the son of UCLA legend and former coach Walt Hazzard, his L.A. hoops upbringing, why he butted heads with Mike Jarvis as a players at George Washington, how he go this break with the Lakers, his long relationship with Kobe, and cutting his teeth writing scouting reports for Phil Jackson.

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