All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "Checks Payable to Deception"

Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department.

In this episode, one ordinary Thursday cracks open a decade of misplaced trust. What starts as a simple payroll question quickly spirals into a trail of inflated salaries, personal charges, and checks written to someone who was practically family. The money is gone, but the real cost runs much deeper.

Access the full article here. Read the April issue here.

Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person.

Chapters:

• Introduction to the Case (00:00:00)
• Part 1: The Person Everyone Trusted (00:00:25)
• Part 2: The Charges That Did Not Add Up (00:01:25)
• Part 3: The Company Behind the Checks (00:02:43)
• Part 4: The True Scope (00:04:26)
• Part 5: The Question That Remained (00:05:43)

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech

In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "Better Together" article, Paula Michaels talks with Ashwathama Rajendran about how AI can support more connected, continuous, and coordinated assurance across the three lines. They discuss why combined assurance can be difficult to achieve in practice, how AI can act as a connecting layer across risk, compliance, operations, and internal audit, and why human judgment, independence, and data privacy remain critical.

• HOST:
  • Paula Michaels Senior Director of Creative and Content Services, The IIA

• GUESTS:
  • Ashwathama Rajendran Data Analytics Lead, Stripe All opinions are Ashwathama Rajendran's own and do not represent his employer, and all scenarios discussed are hypothetical and based on broad industry experience rather than any specific organization.

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction and Ash's Background [00:00:30 - 00:02:05]
• Why Combined Assurance Struggles in Practice [00:02:17 - 00:04:21]
• AI as a Connecting Layer Across the Three Lines [00:04:33 - 00:06:29]
• Creating Real-Time Combined Assurance Maps [00:05:37 - 00:06:09]
• Continuous Monitoring Integration and AI [00:06:30 - 00:09:07]
• Using AI to Detect Cross-Functional Risks Earlier [00:09:07 - 00:11:20]
• Translating Risk Taxonomies Across Functions [00:11:29 - 00:13:35]
• Maintaining Auditor Independence and AI Governance [00:13:35 - 00:16:52]
• Roles of the Three Lines in AI Oversight [00:16:52 - 00:18:01]
• Where Organizations Should Start with AI-Enabled Combined Assurance [00:18:01 - 00:20:31]
• Internal Audit as a Catalyst for AI Adoption [00:20:31 - 00:22:35]
• How AI Will Change Internal Auditing Over the Next Five Years [00:22:35 - 00:25:17]
• Final Thoughts [00:25:17 - 00:25:49

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• Better Together — Internal Auditor Magazine (June Issue)
• Pulse Check: Combined Assurance
• Knowledge Center: Artificial Intelligence
• The Three Lines Model
• Vison 2035
• Global Internal Audit Standards

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this Internal Audit Awareness Month special, internal audit leaders share the human side of the profession. Through stories of resistance, difficult findings, stakeholder trust, courage, and career-defining moments, the episode highlights how internal auditors add value by building relationships, asking better questions, and helping organizations see what they might otherwise miss.

• HOST:
  • Catie Brown
    • Associate Manager & Producer, Content Development, The IIA
• GUESTS

• • • Asim Fareeduddin, CPA, CISA, CISM, CIPP, CISSP
      • Head of Internal Audit & Assurance, RELX
    • Ashanti Clark, CIA Executive Advisor,
      • FedEx Express Corporation
    • Jasdeep Gill, CIA, CISA, CISM, CFE
      • Senior Manager, Internal Audit & Assurance, RELX
    • Aadesh Gandhre, CIA, CISA
      • Chief Audit Executive, DTCC
    • Chad Bourque, CIA
      • Global Director of Enterprise Risk Management, Gallagher Benefits Services
    • Nam Phong Ho, CIA, CISA, CFE, CRMA, QILM, MBA
      • Former Chief Audit Executive, Glencore / Independent Advisor

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00:02-00:01:42]
• Navigating Internal Audit Resistance [00:01:42-00:05:34]
• Preparing for Difficult Conversations [00:05:34-00:08:05]
• Emotional Intelligence and Cultural Awareness [00:08:05-00:09:53]
• Delivering Difficult Audit Findings [00:09:53-00:14:28]
• Leadership During Challenging Audit Moments [00:14:28-00:16:38]
• Communicating the "So What" [00:16:38-00:19:42]
• Active Listening and Stakeholder Trust [00:19:42-00:22:53]
• Building Real Relationships [00:22:53-00:24:21]
• Demonstrating Internal Audit's Business Value [00:24:21-00:27:48]
• Courage and Career Growth in Internal Audit [00:27:48-00:29:51]
• Internal Audit as a Mission [00:29:51-00:31:52]
• Reflecting on Value After Every Audit [00:31:52-00:32:48]
• Sharing Internal Audit Successes [00:32:48-00:33:41]

IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• Discover Internal Audit
• Certifications May Sale
• Internal Audit Month Global Awareness
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Vision 2035
• Career Center

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this episode, Mike Levy sits down with Reebu George to get practical about one of the most significant shifts underway in internal audit right now: the automation of IT controls. They talk through where this shift is happening, what use cases are proving their value, and how internal audit can lead the conversation rather than wait for the business to figure it out first.

• HOST:
  • Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, CISSP CEO, Cherry Hill Advisory
• GUEST:
  • Reebu George, CISSP, CISA, PMP Audit & Assurance Managing Director, IT Internal Audit Leader, Deloitte & Touche LLP

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00:02-00:00:47]
• The Shift Toward Continuous Auditing [00:00:47-00:02:26]
• How Automation Is Changing IT Controls [00:02:26-00:04:54]
• Building an Internal Audit Digital Strategy [00:05:39-00:07:09]
• Where Internal Audit Teams Should Start [00:07:09-00:09:33]
• Using AI and Automation in Audit Workflows [00:09:33-00:10:04]
• Earning a Seat at the Table [00:10:04-00:11:35]
• Developing Talent for Advisory Conversations [00:11:35-00:12:23]
• Rule-Based Controls and Automation Opportunities [00:12:23-00:13:45]
• Governance Risks in Automated Controls [00:13:45-00:15:39]
• Selling the Value of Automation [00:15:39-00:18:37]
• The Future of Continuous Assurance [00:18:37-00:19:49]
• Closing [00:19:52-00:20:23]

IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• IT General Controls Certificate Program
• Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Vision 2035

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this episode, Ahmed Sharif Hawky and Emmanuel Pascal discuss why greenwashing is no longer just a reputational risk, but also a governance and assurance challenge. Together they break down how greenwashing qualifies as legal misrepresentation, why most control environments are far weaker than leadership realizes, and what a practical audit approach looks like — from mapping sustainability claims across channels to using data analytics and intensity ratios to test what companies report and what they don't.

• HOST:
  • Ahmed Sharif Shawky, CIA, CPA CEO, SustainGRC
• GUEST:
  • Emmanuel Pascal, CIA, CRMA, CFE CEO, Condor Strike Member, Committee of Research and Education Advisors, Internal Audit Foundation

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00-00:00:50]
• Defining Greenwashing [00:00:50-00:02:14]
• Political Backlash vs. Regulatory Reality [00:02:16-00:03:21]
• Greenwashing as Misrepresentation [00:03:24-00:06:13]
• Global Greenwashing Regulations [00:06:13-00:07:16]
• Greenwashing as Value Fraud [00:07:22-00:11:07]
• Assessing Greenwashing Risk [00:11:14-00:13:49]
• Green Strategy and Red Flags [00:13:50-00:14:48]
• Using Data Analytics to Test Sustainability Claims [00:14:48-00:18:10]
• Building a Strong Control Framework [00:18:13-00:19:27]
• Internal Audit's Approach to Greenwashing Risk [00:19:27-00:20:58]
• Training Auditors on Sustainability [00:20:58-00:21:52]
• DWS Greenwashing Case [00:21:52-00:23:42]
• 2026 International Conference Promo [00:23:47-00:24:18]
• Closing [00:24:25-00:24:34]

IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• 2026 IIA International Conference
• Knowledge Centers: Environmental, Social, and Governance
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Vision 2035
• Global Perspectives & Insights: Sustainability
• All Things Internal Audit: Unmasking Greenwashing
• On the Frontlines: Greenwashing and Closing the Authenticity Gap
• Five Questions: Preventing Greenwashing
• Fighting Greenwashing Fraud Using Data Analytics

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this episode, Pam Strobel Powers and Mark Maraccini discuss The IIA's recently updated Global Practice Guide Auditing Procurement in the Public Sector. They walk through the three pillars that make public sector procurement unique, explain how to distinguish a vendor from a subrecipient, and share why fraud risk in procurement deserves its own lane in your audit approach.

*Members Save in May* Members can save 20% on CIA, CRMA, and IAP application and exam fees throughout May.

Becker, the official CIA exam review partner of The IIA, is also offering up to 20% off CIA exam prep and $50 off IAP prep. Use the code May20% and access the offer here.

• HOST:
  • Pamela Stroebel Powers, CIA, CGAP, CRMA, CPADirector of Professional Guidance, Public Sector, The IIA

• GUEST:
  • Mark Maraccini, CIA, CPA Partner, Crowe LLP Member, International Internal Audit Standards Board

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:30]

• What Makes Public Sector Procurement Unique [00:01:07 - 00:04:16]

  • Transparency in Procurement [00:01:37 - 00:02:42]

  • Fairness and Equity in Procurement [00:02:42 - 00:03:31]

  • Legal and Regulatory Compliance [00:03:31 - 00:04:16]

• Vendor vs. Subrecipient: Key Differences [00:05:24 - 00:08:44]

• Applying the Procurement Lifecycle [00:09:34 - 00:10:54]

• Using Risk and Control Matrices [00:11:23 - 00:12:54]

  • Manual vs. Technology-Driven Risk Assessment [00:11:48 - 00:12:33]

• Fraud Risk in Procurement [00:13:24 - 00:15:31]

• Equity and Supplier Diversity Programs [00:17:49 - 00:20:11]

• Auditing Program Effectiveness vs. Compliance [00:20:47 - 00:21:28]

• Final Thoughts [00:21:28 - 00:21:50]

IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:

• Global Practice Guide: Auditing Procurement in the Public Sector, 2nd Edition
• Online Exclusive: AI in Public Sector Procurement
• Audit Tool: Procurement Risks and Controls for the Public Sector Examples
• Third-Party Topical Requirement
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Knowledge Centers: Public Sector
• Certifications May Sale

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech

In this episode, Adam Ross speaks with Vipul Patel about how organizations can better prepare for ransomware attacks. They talk through what goes wrong in the first hours of an attack, what smart preparation looks like, and where traditional audit approaches fall short when a business is in crisis mode.

• HOST:
  • Adam Ross, CIA, CISA Partner and Internal Audit Services Leader, Grant Thornton

• GUEST:
  • Vipul Patel, CISA Audit and Assurance Managing Director, IT Internal Audit Leader, Deloitte & Touche LLP

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00:02-00:00:27]
• Common Mistakes in Ransomware Response [00:00:27-00:02:14]
• Building Crisis Communication Plans [00:02:20-00:03:03]
• A Simple Incident Response Runbook [00:03:03-00:05:03]
• Internal Audit's Role Before an Incident [00:05:03-00:07:05]
• Stress Testing and "What If" Scenarios [00:07:05-00:08:01]
• Tabletop Exercises and Cross-Functional Readiness [00:08:02-00:10:03]
• Partnering With the CISO and Management [00:10:03-00:11:15]
• Lessons Learned After Ransomware Incidents [00:11:15-00:14:05]
• Governance Changes After an Attack [00:14:55-00:16:55]
• Cyber Risk as a Business Issue [00:16:55-00:17:16]
• Traits of Organizations That Respond Well [00:17:20-00:19:44]
• Final Advice for Internal Auditors [00:19:44-00:20:56]

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• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Cybersecurity Topical Requirement
• Course: Detecting, Mitigating and Responding to Global Ransomware Attacks
• Articles: A Ransomware Playbook
• IIA Certificates: IT General Controls Certificate
• Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence
• Vison 2035
• IIA Courses: Fundamentals of IT Auditing
• Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
• CIA Challenge Exam

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

In this episode, Benito Ybarra speaks with Margaret Pacheco about her experience earning the CIA through the Challenge Exam. They discuss who the exam is designed for, how it differs from the traditional three-part path, why it is not a shortcut, and how the CIA can strengthen credibility for internal audit professionals at every stage of their careers.

You can apply for the CIA Challenge Exam now if you meet the eligibility requirements, with multiple testing windows offered throughout the year.

If you're planning to qualify through the 10+ years of internal audit experience pilot, you must apply before September 30, 2026, and test during one of the remaining windows in 2026. What's covered on the exam? The CIA Challenge Exam syllabus outlines the topics and structure so you know what to expect. Not sure you're up for the Challenge? The IIA's Challenge Exam practice questions offer a simple way to preview the format and level of difficulty before you commit to the exam.

• HOST:
  • Benito Ybarra, CIA Executive Vice President, Global Standards, Guidance, and Certifications, The IIA

• GUEST:
  • Margaret Pacheco, CIA, CPA, PMP Managing Director, Protiviti

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction and Margaret's Background [00:00:27-00:01:20]
• Why Margaret Pursued the CIA Through the Challenge Exam [00:01:21-00:02:58]
• Is the Challenge Exam a Shortcut? [00:03:06-00:03:33]
• How the Challenge Exam Differs From the Three-Part CIA Exam [00:03:39-00:04:38]
• Who Is Eligible for the Challenge Exam? [00:04:49-00:06:09]
• Why the Challenge Exam Made Sense Later in Her Career [00:06:12-00:06:39]
• Study Strategy and Preparation Tips [00:06:40-00:07:53]
• How Margaret's CPA Background Helped [00:07:57-00:08:28]
• Advice for Candidates Considering the Exam [00:08:30-00:09:01]
• What the CIA Has Meant for Margaret's Career [00:09:03-00:09:54]
• How the CIA Builds Credibility With Employers and Clients [00:09:58-00:11:05]
• Why Accessibility Matters and Final Thoughts [00:11:05-00:11:57]
• Challenge Exam Reminder and Pilot Deadline [00:11:57-00:12:32]

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• CIA Challenge Exam
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Vison 2035
• Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
• IAP (Internal Audit Practitioner)
• Certification Candidate Handbook
• Certificate Programs

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All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "The Heartbreaking Fraud"

Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department.

In this episode, one ordinary Thursday cracks open a decade of misplaced trust. What starts as a simple payroll question quickly spirals into a trail of inflated salaries, personal charges, and checks written to someone who was practically family. The money is gone, but the real cost runs much deeper.

Access the full article here. Read the April issue here.

Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person.

Chapters:

• Introduction to the Case (00:00:00)
• Part 1: A Thursday That Changed Everything (00:00:23)
• Part 2: Something Doesn't Add Up (00:02:46)
• Part 3: Peeling Back the Layers (00:03:56)
• Part 4: The Truth (00:05:13)
• Part 5: A Hard Lesson (00:06:07)

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The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit

What does it take to move an internal audit function from being risk traditionalists to risk strategists, and what's quietly holding most teams back? In this companion episode to Internal Auditor magazine's "Becoming a Risk Strategist" article, host Erin Banet sits down with Jess Rodgers to examine why the traditional audit model no longer fits the world we're operating in, and what leaders need to unlearn before they can change it. You'll hear three assumptions most audit teams are still running on, a real-world example of transformation done right, and one concrete action CAEs can take in the next six months to start shifting their function's standing with leadership.

• HOST:
  • Erin Banet, CPA Chief Audit and Risk Officer, Humana

• GUEST:
  • Jess Rodgers, CIA, CPA Global Internal Audit Leader, EY Vice Chair, Finance, IIA North American Board

KEY POINTS:

• Introduction [00:00:02 - 00:00:25]
• What Defines a Risk Traditionalist Function [00:00:51 - 00:02:31]
• Why the Traditional Model No Longer Works [00:02:37 - 00:04:22]
• Assumptions Internal Audit Must Unlearn [00:04:28 - 00:06:39]
• The Mindset Shift Required for Transformation [00:06:44 - 00:08:44]
• A Real-World Transformation Example [00:08:44 - 00:11:10]
• Where Traditional Approaches Fall Short [00:11:10 - 00:13:36]
• Measuring Success as a Risk Strategist [00:13:36 - 00:15:27]
• Decision Velocity in Practice [00:15:27 - 00:17:25]
• Common Barriers to Transformation [00:17:25 - 00:19:23]
• One Action Leaders Can Take Now [00:19:23 - 00:21:03]
• Advice for CAEs Navigating the Transition [00:21:22 - 00:23:06]
• Driving Change Within Audit Teams [00:23:06 - 00:24:36]
• Closing Thoughts [00:24:36 - 00:25:05]

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• Becoming a Risk Strategist — Internal Auditor Magazine (April Issue)
• Global Internal Audit Standards
• Vison 2035
• GTAG: Continuous Auditing and Monitoring
• Learning Solutions: Agile Auditing
• Global Guidance: Developing a Risk-Based Internal Audit Plan, 2nd Edition
• Learning Solutions: Fundamentals of Risk-based Auditing
• Become a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA)
• Risk in Focus 2026
• EY Global Risk Transformation Study

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