This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shagen Ganason, Group Chief Auditor, and Chief Audit Executive at Liva Group.

In this episode, Shagen shares the inspiration behind his new book, The Storyteller’s Ledger, and why he believes storytelling is one of the most powerful tools internal auditors can develop. From rethinking traditional audit reports to presenting to the board, Shagen offers a practical framework for transforming audit communication—complete with templates, examples, and coaching strategies he's used with his own teams.

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Timecodes:

4:30 – Keeping the Audit Committee Engaged

6:28 – Why Audit’s Influence Matters

10:16 – Traditional vs. Story-Driven Audit Findings

13:48 – Turning Audit Reports Into Compelling Stories

16:55 – Highlighting Cause and Effect Clearly

20:16 – Storytelling to the Audit Committee

26:06 – Delivering a Clear and Confident Message

30:15 – Helping Your Team Master Storytelling

34:50 – Final Thoughts

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Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences.

Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support from leadership, and what frameworks to consider.

Be sure to connect with Beth on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

1:46 – How an ERM Expert Uses LLMs

6:13 – What Is Enterprise Risk Management (ERM)?

11:53 – Setting Up Your Team to Implement ERM

14:00 – Building the Business Case for ERM

19:12 – How to Pitch ERM to the Board

23:04 – Facilitating the ERM Process

30:40 – Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi.

In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her emotional intelligence in order to thrive professionally. She opens up about that journey, how developing strong communication skills transformed her leadership style, and offers practical strategies others can apply in their own careers.

Be sure to connect with Nancy on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

3:10 - Strategies for Supporting an Overextended Team

8:22 -  Nancy's Journey to Finding Emotional intelligence

21:19 - Acting Classes for Auditors

28:50 – Letting Go of Ego to Build a Stronger Team

33:30 - Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Chris Denver, former CAE and IIA Chicago President.

In this episode, Chris walks us through the forward-looking staffing model he’s developed—one that balances internal talent with digital tools and trusted external partners to create a more flexible, future-ready audit function. He shares how this hybrid approach not only drives efficiency but also helps his team stay responsive in a constantly changing business environment.

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Timecodes:

2:40 – Using LLMs for Creativity and Innovation

5:00 – Rethinking the Traditional Audit Staffing Pyramid

11:20 – Why Automation Is Essential to the Evolving Audit Process

16:40 – Putting the New Internal Audit Model into Practice

19:30 – Preparing Future Auditors

23:03 – Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’ve gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark.

AI Agent Governance: A Field Guide

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Timecodes:

4:46- Charles King: Understanding the Fundamentals of Agentic AI

7:52 - John Thompson: Using Agents to Help Auditors Focus on What Matters Most

11:28 - Andrew Clark: Challenging the Conventional Thinking on Agentic AI

19:06 - Trent Russell: How Audits Fit Into the World of Agentic AI

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University.

In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it’s a team meeting, a presentation, or a high-stakes conversation. Be sure to connect with Rob on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

5:00 – Using ChatGPT to Learn About Cybersecurity

9:20 – Why Communication Skills Matter More Than Technical Know-How

15:30 – A Practical Approach to Building Confidence in Meetings

23:29 – How to Recover When a Presentation Doesn’t Land

25:51 – Getting Started with Public Speaking

32:17 – How to Strengthen Your Presentation Skills

43:33 – Key Conversations Throughout the Audit Lifecycle

50:53 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mark Freeman, Head of Internal Audit at Vermeer Corporation. In this episode, Mark shares insights from a recent CAE roundtable, where recruitment, audit committee metrics, and Copilot use cases topped the agenda. He also walks us through how he rebuilt internal audit’s reputation at Vermeer after stepping into a challenging environment. Plus, he gives us a look at the actual metrics he shares with his audit committee—offering a practical starting point for your own reporting conversations. Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

3:03 - Timeless Advice from Charlie Munger

7:15 - Rethinking Recruitment and Talent in Audit

12:10 - Unlocking the Full Value of Internal Audit

15:20 - Reframing the Image of Internal Audit

21:50 - Why Metrics Matter

27:58 - Must-Reads for Audit Professionals

31:30 - Implementing Copilot: AI in Action

39:15 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Taylor Meadows, Founder and CEO of Change Captain.

In this episode, Taylor shares his journey from manually managing IT change controls to founding Change Captain, a software solution that streamlines change management and R&D tax credit processes. We touch on organizations handle code changes, the risks involved, and how automation is revolutionizing compliance.

Be sure to connect with Taylor on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

3:50 - Advancing Learning with AI

6:26 - Navigating Change Management in IT

10:19 - The Origin Story of CrowdStrike

11:52 - Understanding System Limitations

15:56 - Handling Emergency Changes Effectively

17:07 - Data-Driven Decision Making

19:00 - Exploring R&D Tax Credits

21:52 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

We've tested Notebook LM again, an AI tool that transforms written articles into podcast episodes using artificially generated voices.

This time, we used an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monica attended the Mini Spring Audit Analytics and AI Conference and shared her key takeaways in a LinkedIn article. We uploaded her piece to Notebook LM, and the result is an unedited, AI-generated podcast episode.

Be sure to read Monica’s article and to connect with her on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

2:04 - The Fast-Paced Evolution of Data in AI and Analytics

3:22 - Audit Analytics Strategy and Role Structuring

5:21 - Using Data to Keep Sewer Compliance Flowing

7:14 - Harnessing Copilot for Speed & Efficiency

9:42 - Managing Innovation and AI

11:15 - Making an Agent is Easier

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by we’re joined by David Hill, Managing Director of HillAudit Training Ltd.

In this episode, David challenges the idea that stability equals security and internal audit. He explores how budget cuts, resistance to change, and outdated processes can lead to disengagement—hurting recruitment, retention, and audit effectiveness.

He also shares strategies to combat stagnation, from fostering innovation to leveraging AI and analytics for efficiency.

Be sure to connect with David on LinkedIn.

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Timecodes:

2:40 - Shaking Up Complacency

9:17 - The One-Day Audit

12:57 - How Well do CAEs Know Their Budget

17:52 - How to Secure More Budget for Your Audit Goals

22:53 - How to Overcome Pushback 

24:48 - Why Auditors Need Sales Skills 

27:14 - Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. 

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.