This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Clarissa Lucas, author of Beyond Agile Auditing.

Back by popular demand, Clarissa discusses whether auditing with agility is more of a mindset or a methodology—and why focusing on the why matters more than the how. She shares practical ways teams can move from a "practice-first" approach to an agile mindset and highlights key agile practices supported by recent research she's translated for the audit community.

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Timecodes:

2:15 – Clarissa's Favorite AI Prompt

10:46 – Auditing With Agility

14:18 – Shifting the Mindset Around Agile Methodology

17:04 – Anchoring to the "Why"

19:02 – Why a "Practices-First" Approach Doesn't Work

21:50 – How to Effectively Measure the "Why"

27:43 – The Importance of Feedback Loops

31:17 – Breaking Work into Smaller, Manageable Batches

32:09 – Helpful Resources for Auditors

36:10 – Use Case Corner: Managing Too Many Stand-Ups

41:10 – Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Ed Zimmer, Founder of ControlSense and Principal at Advanced Risk and Controls Analytics, LLC.

In this episode, Ed shares what inspired him to launch ControlSense after decades of experience in audit innovation. He talks about the challenges he saw auditors facing, how ControlSense helps solve inconsistencies in the audit process, and why he believes privacy and security must stay at the center of any AI discussion.

Ed also walks through a short demo of ControlSense, showing how the platform brings consistency and efficiency to internal audit workflows.

For those listening on audio, the demo portion is available on YouTube here.

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Timecodes:

1:57 - Ed's Go-To AI Prompts

5:16 - What lead Ed to Launch ControlSense

6:55 - Solving Audit Inconsistencies with ControlSense

8:51 – Aligning with Each Company's Audit Methodology

14:22 – What Sets ControlSense Apart from Other AI Tools

22:24 – ControlSense in Action: Demo

31:15 – Why Users Feel Safe Inputting Data into ControlSense

32:45 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Paul Goodhew, Partner and EY Global Assurance Innovation & Emerging Technology.

In this episode, Paul discusses how EY is helping clients implement artificial intelligence and the importance of understanding both the potential and risks of this rapidly advancing technology. He explains why AI is different from all other tool auditors have seen, outlines how EY's AI Assurance Framework is guiding professionals globally, and offers practical advice for auditors learning to evaluate controls that use AI. Paul also shares his personal approach to staying current—testing at least one new AI tool a month—and how EY is equipping hundreds of thousands of people across the firm with the right skills to use AI responsibly.

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Timecodes:

1:35 - How Paul Uses ChatGPT

7:09 - The One Thing Every Auditor Should Do

9:27 - Why AI Is Different Than Every Other Tool

12:30 - How EY Is Helping Clients Implement AI

17:46 - How Internal Audit Can Build Confidence in AI-Driven Controls

22:21 - Why AI Governance Should Be a Top Priority for Companies

25:21 - When Governance Struggles to Keep Up With Technology

27:45 - Agentic IA Advances within the Next Year

33:44 - Training and Upskilling Teams for the AI Era

37:12 - Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Ronnie Welch, Chief Audit Executive at Guardian Life. Ronnie has spent his career in insurance audit, with experience at MetLife, Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, and several Big Four firms.

In this episode, Ronnie talks about how he's modernizing internal audit and shares the practical steps his team has taken at Guardian Life. He explains his three-tier analytics system, which helps his 48-person audit team work more efficiently and make a bigger impact. Listeners will come away with clear, actionable ideas for strengthening their own audit teams—no matter the size.

We also highlight Ronnie's achievement of winning Guardian Life's CEO Award nearly ten years before stepping into his current role, showing the dedication and leadership that have defined his career.

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Timecodes:

1:06 – How Ronnie Uses LLMs

4:38 – Agent Outsourcing

10:04 – Innovating the Team's Knowledge of AI

15:17 – Who Is Internal Audit's Customer? Let's Serve Them

18:20 – Training for Soft Skills

20:45 – Getting the Entire Team to a Basic Analytics Level

27:12 – Tweaks Made to the Three-Tier System Along the Way

30:13 – Ronnie Wins the CEO Award

32:42 – IIA Vision 2035

33:53 – Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Valerie Zappia, Internal Audit Data Analytics Manager at Victoria's Secret. In this episode, she takes the opportunity to address those unanswered questions and share her perspective on the challenges many audit teams are facing today.

She discusses the realities of managing data availability and quality issues, how to navigate the ever-present debate around selecting tools, and what she's doing to upskill non-data auditors on her team. Valerie also shares her thoughts on how internal audit can better align analytics work with the broader strategy and priorities of the organization.

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Timecodes:

1:31 – Tackling data acquisition challenges

6:44 – Choosing the right tools with insights from a data analytics expert

11:55 – Building data literacy among non-auditors

17:12 – Securing buy-in from stakeholders outside internal audit

25:24 – Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Matthew Oleniuk, founder of The Risk Insider and former Chief Audit Executive in the public sector.

Matthew shares lessons from 15 years as a CAE, what he's most passionate about right now, and his perspective on how to predict whether public sector projects will succeed—or fail.

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Timecodes:

2:20 – How Matthew Uses LLMs

5:28 – Advice for CAE Leaders

11:20 – The Dynamics of Building an Audit Committee

15: 35 – The Mindset of Empowering the Team

25:03 – What Matthew Is Especially Passionate About Right Now

29:17 – Why Public Sector Projects Fail

33:21 - Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by Geoff Kovesdy, who leads Digital Controls AI and Automation, and Jimena Escamilla, Senior Manager in Deloitte's Advisory group.

They share their favorite ChatGPT and Copilot prompts, talk about the one thing auditors should focus on right now, and discuss how audit teams can get AI and innovation wrong—and how to avoid those mistakes. The conversation also looks at leadership, with Geoff's reminder that "soft skills equal power skills."

Geoff will also be speaking at the 2025 Audit Analytics & AI Conference on September 24–25. The event is virtual, and recordings will be available. His session will cover "GenAI: The Truth of the Matter and Impact on Risks and Controls."

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Timecodes:

3:18 – How to use AI chat bots

8:19 – The One Thing Auditors Should Do

10:25 – What Happens When Innovation Plans Go Wrong

15:16 – Innovation in internal audit

27:31 – Soft Skills equal Power Skills

31:27 - Accountability Meets Empathy

34:26 – How to Strengthen Your Empathy

37:00 - Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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