This is perhaps my favourite episode of the podcast ever! We had the privilege of interviewing social psychologist, writer, activist and professor, Dr Devon Price. They are the inspiration behind so many of Amie and my ideas around rest, laziness, and hustle culture. We talk about: the ways the "laziness lie" uniquely impacts creatives, balancing ambition and burnout, abolishing time, finding your own definition of success, the importance of meaningful engagement versus high but shallow follower counts, their new book, Unmasking Autism, and much more!

You'll also get to hear me in full "I've see a celebrity" mode for at least the first fifteen minutes. Not at all embarrassing... So enjoy that!

You can find Devon on instagram @drdevonprice

On medium at: devonprice.medium.com/

Their book, Laziness Does Not Exist is available to purchase at your preferred retailer (the audiobook is also great) and their upcoming book Unmasking Autism is available for pre-order.

Enjoy the ep!

Also, Amie's courses are all on sale until the 8th of October!