All Things MSP

Live from the ACES Conference in Minneapolis, Minnesota, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony sit down with industry leaders to unpack what it really takes to build, scale, and value a successful Managed Service Provider (MSP).

In this episode, Justin Maxwell from Big Life Financial dives into crucial wealth management and financial strategies specifically tailored for MSP business owners looking to maximize their long-term growth. Next, Naaila Hossain from Techcierge discusses operational excellence and the tactical shifts necessary to streamline tech services. Finally, Lucas Acosta from Foojee shares profound insights into company culture, team alignment, and understanding what makes an MSP truly attractive to buyers and investors. Whether you are aiming to optimize your current operations or preparing your business for an eventual high-value exit, these live conversations offer actionable takeaways straight from the conference floor.

Connect With Our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

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Justin Maxwell (Big Life Financial): https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-maxwell-5b5832a/
Naaila Hossain (Techcierge): https://www.linkedin.com/in/naaila-hossain-a83151b/
Lucas Acosta (Foojee): https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasacosta/

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In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into one of the most challenging aspects of running a business: handling major employee mistakes and the inevitable process of termination. While we all strive to build a perfect team, sometimes a "mess up" is so significant that it requires immediate and decisive action to protect the company and its clients.

Justin and Eric share candid insights into the emotional and operational hurdles of letting someone go. From identifying the "red line" where a mistake becomes a fireable offense to navigating the logistics of an exit interview, this episode is a must-watch for any MSP owner or manager looking to lead with both empathy and professional rigor. They discuss how to maintain team morale during a transition and how to turn a negative staffing situation into a learning opportunity for the rest of the organization.

Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
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Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsmsp
LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

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In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into the trending concept of "Vibe Coding." As AI tools like Cursor, Replit, and Lovable become more accessible, MSPs are starting to ask: Do we still need to pay for every vendor tool, or can we just build it ourselves?

We explore the shift from traditional software procurement to a world where "vibing" out a prompt can generate functional code. While the idea of replacing high-cost vendor subscriptions with custom-built internal tools is enticing, it comes with significant risks. We discuss the balance between the "instant gratification" of AI development and the long-term responsibilities of maintaining, securing, and supporting custom code. Is Vibe Coding a legitimate way to gain a competitive edge, or is it a support nightmare waiting to happen? Join us as we break down the pros, the cons, and the future of development in the MSP space.

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Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
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In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive into another round of "Reddit Roulette," pulling the most pressing questions from the r/MSP community. The duo tackles two fundamental yet controversial topics that every Managed Service Provider faces: the reality of ticket volumes and the absolute necessity (or lack thereof) of Remote Monitoring and Management (RMM) tools.

First, the guys break down a common industry anxiety: "Is this number of tickets too high?" They discuss why raw numbers can be deceiving and how to distinguish between healthy productivity and a burning-out help desk. Following that, they dive into the "To RMM or not to RMM" debate, exploring whether modern MSPs can survive using alternative stacks or if the RMM remains the undisputed heart of the operation. Whether you are a solo-preneur or scaling a large team, this episode provides a grounded perspective on the tools and metrics that actually matter.

We would like to give a massive thank you to our premier sponsors for making this show possible:
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Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
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Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsmsp
LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony take a deep dive into the hectic but rewarding "conference season." As the MSP industry gears up for a wave of major events, the duo discusses how to choose the right conferences to attend, what to expect from major shows like Pax8 Beyond and ACEs, and why these in-person gatherings are vital for business growth and community building. Whether you are a solo practitioner or leading a large team, this episode provides a roadmap for getting the most out of your travel budget and your time on the show floor.

Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the Community:
Website: https://allthingsmsp.com
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsmsp
LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

A Huge Thank You to Our Sponsors:
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Gozynta: https://gozynta.com?utm_source=ATMSP
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In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into a concerning trend surfacing in the first quarter of 2026: the widening gap between rising revenues and stagnant profit margins. While many MSPs are seeing their top-line numbers grow, the "cost of doing business" is eating away at the bottom line faster than ever. We break down the economic factors, staffing costs, and vendor price hikes that are contributing to this shift and offer actionable strategies to ensure your business remains healthy and sustainable.

We also explore why traditional "per-seat" pricing might be failing you in the current market and how to re-evaluate your service stack to recapture lost points. Whether you are a solo-mighty MSP or scaling a large team, this conversation is a necessary reality check for your Q2 planning.

A huge thank you to our premier sponsors for making this show possible:

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Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
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LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into the often-confusing world of client communication. We’ve all been there—a client asks for a "quick 5-minute fix" that turns into a three-hour ordeal, or they tell you "it’s not a big deal" when their entire network is actually on fire. Justin and Eric break down these common phrases, providing a lighthearted yet essential translation guide for Managed Service Providers.

The duo explores the psychology behind why clients communicate the way they do and how MSPs can better manage expectations without damaging the relationship. Whether you are dealing with a "technical" client who knows just enough to be dangerous or a hands-off executive who only calls when things break, this episode offers practical advice on navigating the nuances of the MSP-client dynamic. Tune in to learn how to read between the lines, improve your service delivery, and keep your sanity intact.

Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar (Owner/CEO of Virtua Computers): https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony (Founder of All Things MSP): https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

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In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony tackle one of the most difficult transitions for any IT entrepreneur: moving from being the "Lead Technician" to a true business leader. Many MSP owners find themselves trapped in the daily grind of tickets and troubleshooting, often because they enjoy the work or feel no one else can do it as well as they can. However, as the guys discuss, this "technician's trap" is the primary bottleneck preventing business growth and personal freedom.

The conversation explores the psychological shift required to let go of technical tasks and the tactical frameworks needed to delegate effectively. Drawing inspiration from Dan Martell’s "Buy Back Your Time," Justin and Eric break down how to audit your calendar, identify low-value tasks, and reinvest that energy into high-level strategy and sales. Whether you are a solo-preneur looking to make your first hire or a established owner struggling to step back from the bench, this episode provides a roadmap for reclaiming your time and scaling your MSP.

Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar (CEO, Virtua Computers): https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony (Founder, All Things MSP): https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsmsp
LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

A Special Thank You to Our Sponsors:
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Gozynta: https://atmsp.link/gozynta
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OITVoip: https://atmsp.link/oit

In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into the philosophy of the "Lifestyle MSP." For many managed service providers, the business becomes a 24/7 job that relies entirely on the founder's technical skills and presence. Justin and Eric challenge this norm, discussing how to transition from a business that owns you to a business that you own—one that provides the freedom you desire while simultaneously increasing its market value.

The conversation covers the essential shift in mindset required to stop being the "chief everything officer." By focusing on process, automation, and a strong team, MSP owners can build an entity that functions independently. This isn't just about working less; it's about building an asset. We explore what buyers actually look for when acquiring an MSP: recurring revenue, documented procedures, and a business model that doesn't collapse if the founder takes a vacation. Whether you are looking to sell in two years or twenty, the steps to making your business "sellable" are the same steps that make it a joy to run. Tune in to learn how to reclaim your time and build a legacy.

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Connect with the Hosts:
Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the All Things MSP Community:
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LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

In this episode of the All Things MSP Podcast, hosts Justin Esgar and Eric Anthony dive deep into the growing friction between vendors and Managed Service Providers. They explore why the traditional "channel" often feels like a one-way street and why modern vendors struggle to understand the daily reality of a three-person MSP supporting dozens of clients.
The conversation covers the "micro" frustrations, like rigid one-year contracts and high-watermark pricing, and shifts to "macro" issues, such as the disconnect between corporate B2B sales motions and the B2C-adjacent speed at which MSPs operate. Justin and Eric discuss the vital difference between a sales-driven account rep and a true Partner Success team that focuses on retention over quotas.

They also offer a "vendor checklist" for success: 
 - have a great product
 - be easy to do business with
 - provide flexible, month-to-month billing options. 

Whether you're an MSP frustrated by radio silence from your reps or a vendor looking to build a better community, this episode offers a candid, "no-holds-barred" look at the state of the industry.

Connect with our Hosts:
Justin Esgar (Owner/CEO of Virtua Computers): https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/
Eric Anthony (Founder of All Things MSP): https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/

Join the Community:
All Things MSP Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsmsp
All Things MSP LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allthingsmsp/
All Things MSP YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AllThingsMSP

Special Thanks to our Sponsors:
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EasyDMARC: https://atmsp.link/easydmarc
OIT Voip: 
Sync365: https://atmsp.link/Sync365

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All Things MSP is a community for managed IT service providers, IT service providers and independent computer repair people who want to grow their businesses and share best practices.  From their managed services pricing, business plan or even support automation, we discuss it all.  IT service business owners of all types can participate and share business ideas.  We also invite IT service vendors who support the channel to participate as well so long as they follow the group rules.