Land Tawney, the former CEO of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, is back with a new lobbying group. And he's going hard against politicians who are pushing anti-public lands initiatives.

Edited by Mike Pedersen / Eighty Five Audio.

Hosted by editor-in-chief Alex Robinson.

Produced by executive editor Natalie Krebs.

Guest is Land Tawney of American Hunters and Anglers.

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